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== Setting up your GPS ==
=== Bluetooth GPS ===
First, turn on [[Bluetooth]] on your Pandora.

Open up terminal and do:
<source lang="bash">hcitool scan</source>
This scans for bluetooth devices. Find your GPS device on the list and make a note of its MAC address (it is in the form xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx).

Now you want to find the channel for your bluetooth GPS, run the command (replacing the example MAC address with your own):
<source lang="bash">sdptool browse xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx</source>

Now you need to edit ''/etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf''. In this example I use nano, but you can use whatever editor you like. Do:
<source lang="bash">sudo nano /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf</source>

Fill in ''rfcomm.conf'' using the following template and the information you found using the steps listed above:

<source lang="apache">
rfcomm0 {
bind no;
device xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;
channel 1;
comment “GPS”;
}
</source>

Now connecting to your GPS is as simple as running the command:
<source lang="bash">sudo rfcomm connect 0</source>

====ConBTGPS====
If you don't want to bother with connecting your BT GPS from command line everytime, you can use [http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=ConBTGPS ConBTGPS].

'''Prerequisities'''

To use ConBTGPS successfully you need to:

a) have gpsd installed (see below)

b) have your BT GPS paired with OP

c) have the GPS address and channel specified in rfcomm.conf (see above)

ConBTGPS was tested with [http://www.nokia.co.uk/support/product-support/nokia-wireless-gps-module-ld-3w/ Nokia LD-3W] BT GPS.

=== USB GPS ===
Someone with a USB GPS will need to fill in this section

A usb gps will use '/dev/ttyUSB0' or '/dev/ttyACM0' instead of '/dev/rfcomm0', apart from that it's the same.

The Linux kernel shipped with the pandora dosn't properly recognize some bluetooth/usb gps's that have buggy usb descriptors, if you see something like this in dmesg:
<pre>
cdc_acm: Zero length descriptor references
cdc_acm: probe of 2-1:1.0 failed with error -22
</pre>

and you do not get a /dev/ttyACM0, then you have a buggy gps. There is a kernel patch to work around this, which can be found [http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-kernel@lists.debian.org/msg44773.html here].

*[http://www.i-store.com.au/product/?CategoryID=34&productid=8758 POLARES GPS RECEIVER]
*[http://www.buygpsnow.com/Canmore-GT-730F-USB-GPS-Dongle-with-A-GPS-Support__1037.aspx Canmore GT-730F USB GPS Stick Dongle (WAAS, A-GPS, 54 channels, Windows, Mac, Linux Compatible)]

=== Verify that you are receiving data ===
You can check this by opening up the terminal and running (for example):
<source lang="bash">
cat /dev/rfcomm0
</source>

== Software ==

=== gpsd ===
===== Installation =====
Installing gpsd is a requirement for using many GPS related programs. It can be installed through opkg, however the version currently in the Angstrom repos is too new for some applications (specifically tangoGPS). However if you want to install it this way you can by running:
<source lang="bash">sudo opkg update
sudo opkg install gpsd</source>

Now if you do want the older version which does work with tangoGPS, you must download it from [http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv7a/base/gpsd_2.38-r0.1_armv7a.ipk here]. Put that file somewhere convenient, like the root of an SD card. You can still use opkg to install it, for example if you have it on the root of the right hand side SD card:
<source lang="bash">sudo opkg install /media/mmcblk1p1/gpsd_2.38-r0.1_armv7a.ipk</source>

=== TangoGPS ===
[[Image:Tangogps.png|thumb|right|200px|tangoGPS running on a Pandora]]
Be aware that by default data for the maps are stored into your home directory (on the NAND if you're not [[Running_Linux_from_an_SD_card | running off an SD card]]).
===== Installation =====
Until someone makes a PND, you can use opkg:
<source lang="bash">sudo opkg update
sudo opkg install tangogps</source>

You should now find TangoGPS in the "other" category of the menu.

=== modRana ===
[[Image:ModRana.png|thumb|right|200px|modRana running on a Pandora]]
[http://modrana.org/ modRana] is flexible GPS navigation with finger friendly on-screen buttons (keyboard controll is planned in future versions, currently only zooming is mapped to gaming Y and X buttons). PND version of it stores all data on memory card into /media/CARD_NAME/pandora/appdata/modrana/cache. It stores all cached map tiles at default but app also provides clever way of downloading map tiles for offline use. In the menu > download you can decide between several options:
* around here
* around route
* around view
In all choices you can set the diameter in KM and zoom levels of downloaded tiles. Download runs then in app background and you can continue using modRana in the meanwhile. To see the download progress just go to menu > download again.

modRana also provides online routing (offline routing is planned in future versions) and other features like POIs, tracklogging etc.

If you install [http://espeak.sourceforge.net/ eSpeak] (text to speech synth) on your Pandora, modRana is then able to navigate you with voice.

===== Installation =====
Just go to repos and [http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=modRana download modRana].

eSpeak installation (optional)

Since eSpeak is already available in Angstrom repository, it can be easily installed from there. It's small, no need to worry that it will eat much of your NAND. Startup terminal and type:
<source lang="bash">sudo opkg update</source>
(optional, just to make sure that you have the latest list of available packages)
<source lang="bash">sudo opkg install espeak</source>

===Navit===
Navit is an full linux navigation system, offering routing abilities on offline maps (e.g. from OpenStreetMap). Here is the tutorial on the pandora port: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenPandora

[[Category:Bluetooth]]
[[Category:Tutorials]]

Talk:Old Main Page

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== Dutch translation ==

@ Orkie: Seeing as The Netherlands has a [http://www.gpark.nl GP2X community] too (and (although) indirectly, Pandora), it might be useful to add a link to it. I'm even willing to do (some) Dutch translations for the Wiki. ;) --[[User:SharQueDo|SharQueDo]] 11:57, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
: Sure, I'll do it when I get chance. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

== Finnish translation ==

I would like to do a finnish translation of the page, I just need you guys to link the main page to http://pandorawiki.org/Fi:Main_page and create the finlands flag symbol.
: Great, same as above. I'll dig out a flag icon and set up a new category later today. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

: I think I will have time to start the translation project in Sunday and I will be working on it for some time. For starters I will be translating about pandora and Faq, but I will also add thinks that finnish people always ask me to faq. I plan to update as the english version updates and add stuff in the user category, in the developer category I will just put links to the english versions because you just have to know english to do that stuff. (besides, I don't think that I'm the right person to translate developer stuff) [[User:Gaeryc|Gaeryc]] 21:45, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
==Icelandic translation ==
i have translated the Main Page in to icelandic

http://pandorawiki.org/Is:Main_Page
--[[User:Andri12|Andri12]] 06:58, 20 April 2008 (CEST)

== Czech translation ==

Can you add Czech translation link http://pandorawiki.org/Cz:Main_page please? I'd like to make some translations to Czech language. Thanks.
: Sure, sorry it has taken a few days to get around to it. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 19:47, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

== Spanish Translation ==

Anybody working on this?<br />
If not, what dialect should it be in? (I can only do some of the Latin American dialects, not much of any Spain/Castillian) You may consider having two namespaces: one for the European dialect (''Es:'') and one for Latin American dialect (''La:'') <br />
[[User:Nat1192|Nat1192]] 02:11, 1 October 2008 (CEST)

== German translation ==
Hey, I would like to do a german translation of this page. First i will link to the english articles. <br />
[[User:Shorty Meeks|Shorty Meeks]] 16:58, 7 December 2008 (CEST)

== French translation ==
There was already a basic French page. I'm slowly updating it and a bunch of other pages. [[User:KodeIn|KodeIn]] 21:38, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Allow editing==
Please allow all established users to edit this page. The requests are completely backlogged, and the front page is getting more and more outdated. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:24, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
:Thank you for updating it, EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 12:13, 15 July 2010 (MEST)
::Just a thought... we could make templates for the different sections to this page (About Pandora, links, user links, dev links) and then have this page use those templates. That would mean any logged in user could edit it, which ''is'' slightly dangerous for reasons of spam but does make it so it can be edited by everyone, they just couldn't get at the layout of the page. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 09:11, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
:::Or just add a couple of users as explicit editors. The template suggestion seems OK, since anyone could revert spam, but we don't have 24/7 coverage of recent changes.--[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 12:19, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
::::I agree that would be the best choice, but ED is the only active admin and I don't think he's familiar enough administering a wiki or he would have done it already, that or he's too busy. I've gone ahead with the template idea and sent him an updated main page, it should be up within a day or two. Hopefully the spammers won't realize they can now access part of the main page and start spamming like crazy. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 07:37, 21 July 2010 (MEST)

==Will X Run on the Pandora?==

We have an article with this name. http://pandorawiki.org/Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora%3F It really SHOULD be added to the main page, under Users. It's begging to be used more often! I've already put it on the Port Requests page.

[[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 22:49, 22 January 2011 (MET)BlueProtoman

:The main page uses templates to bring in the links, so we don't need admins to update it. See (or edit): [[Template:MainPageUsersLinks]]. Feel free to add it there if no one objects to it. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 04:00, 23 January 2011 (MET)

::Wow... I had no idea. Thanks a bunch, Cheese. The [[Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora?]] article is quite rough at the moment though, so I don't know... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:45, 23 January 2011 (MET)
::Oh, I see that someone cleaned it up a bit so that it doesn't overlap with the software list articles. That was a good idea. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:48, 23 January 2011 (MET)

That was me. Also, I didn't know it ran off a template. If that's the case, I'll add the page now. Thanks. [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 15:20, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Move Hardware hacking from Users to Developers ?==

That's said--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:14, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:It has nothing to do with developers, though... i.e. I had to do some so-called "hardware hacking" as a user because my stylus was stuck when I got my unit. Also, DaveC is known for hardware hacking but is certainly not a developer. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:05, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::Ok, so the french main page has to be changed--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:40, 27 February 2011 (MET)

== Wiki Translation tips ==

Anyone ?--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:41, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:What's your question? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:06, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::I don't know how to proceed efficiently... Read a lot of wikis but never edited seriously :/--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:39, 27 February 2011 (MET)
:::Maybe have several tabs open, one with the original page, one with the translated page that you're creating, one with Google Translate? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:19, 17 March 2011 (MET)

== What happened to the logo? ==

Title. The logo's missing in favor of a placeholder, and I don't know why. Anyone care to explain? [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 14:58, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:ED updated to the latest MediaWiki and changed the captcha to something more complex at my request, to get rid of the constant spam problems that we've had the past few weeks. It seems to have worked, but the logo seems to have gotten lost in the process. He's understandably quite busy, but I hope that eventually he'll find some time to put it back in (I'd do it, but I suspect I don't have access to that part of the site - though I'm not entirely sure). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:17, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:Instructions for setting a logo image are [http://kb.siteground.com/article/How_to_change_my_MediaWiki_logo_image.html here]. I don't think I have access to LocalSettings.php, though. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:24, 17 March 2011 (MET)
::It's nice to see that we're running the newest version now, I didn't realize ED had access to the server. Yep, you need write access to the files on the server to change the logo URL, there's no way to set it from the admin interface. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 23:29, 17 March 2011 (MET)

==Houston, we have a problem!==
"Upload file" on the wiki no longer works. When I try, I get a message saying "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver." I've notified ED about this. I hope he checks his PMs from time to time. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:26, 25 March 2011 (MET)
:By the way, this is now fixed. And we have a logo again. :) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:14, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

==Second Problem==
Translation disappears !!! --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:58, 6 April 2011 (MEST)
:What? Where? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:47, 7 April 2011 (MEST)
::Clicked on the french page to edit this and there like when i have time
http://pandorawiki.org/Fr:Main_Page gives Fr:Main Page
There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page.

Clicking on some other flags gave the same answer :/ --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 21:21, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
:Bizarre. I'll have to ask EvilDragon about this... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 21:36, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
::I also have to add that every contribution to the french page has been removed from my history... weird --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 13:01, 9 April 2011 (MEST)
:::[[:Category:Emulator_Compatibility|these pages]] have disappeared as well. I'm ''certain'' that they were there before the latest update, but now they're gone along with the edit histories. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::So do we have to start over again TT ? --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:51, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Let's give ED a while to see if he can figure out what went wrong, first... it's possible that he might be able to recover those pages. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:42, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
: I would suggest to use the [[:template:languages]] that adds a list of translations on top of the page. Due to a bug it doesn't hiddes all remaining languages, but this will work if we fix the wiki config --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 00:11, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::For my proposal about what the "languages" template should look like, please see the "Updating Mediawiki" thread below this one. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

At least some of the missing pages can be [http://replay.web.archive.org/20090402132152/http://pandorawiki.org/Main_Page seen on Archive.org in the 2009 snapshot of the wiki]. For example, [http://replay.web.archive.org/20090425145019/http://pandorawiki.org/Fr:Main_Page here's the French-language main page]. Maybe until someone figures out what happened (EvilDragon tried, but with no success so far), those can be used to reconstruct what was lost... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:23, 1 May 2011 (MEST)

== Right to change the mainpage ==

Hi Orkie,

I would like to help to clean up the wiki and therefore outsource templates, reorder mainpage etc. Might you grant me the right to do so, please?

:Orkie is no longer around, ABC. Neither is Chip. The only admins active now are myself and EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:20, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:You're free to improve the wiki of course, but please add a discussion topic in the relevant talk page before you decide to start on any radical changes that may be controversial and difficult to undo. This is better for all sides, because if you go in too rashly, you risk having all your work undone if someone heavily disagrees with what you propose. So if you have anything radical in mind, it might be better to start a "fork" page first (like [[Games (fork)|this one]]), then if nobody objects it can be brought over to the main article.

:By the way, what do you mean about "outsourcing templates"? And what specifically on the main page don't you like? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:12, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Sorry was my fault, you already use templates so I could just do some little reordering. I would like to remove the language flags, I try to get [[:template:languages]] working instead, which is checking if the pages have translations or not.
:I understand your point of view, concerning critical edits. Currently I just do refactoring and reformatting so nothing that affects the content or structure to heavy. I guess a discussion would be necessary before renaming some of the pages.--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

== Updating Mediawiki ==

Hi, are there any concerns on updating this instance to a more recent version? I'm always confused to have the searchbar at the left side without outocomplete and SVG is currently unsupported :/ --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 18:22, 19 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I personally think the new look of Wikipedia is pretty ugly and inefficient, so I'm a fan of keeping the cosmetics as they are. ;) EvilDragon actually updated to the latest MediaWiki just recently to combat a spam problem that we had. It might've messed up a few other things, though (see discussion in the above topics). The SVG thing isn't that great, if true (I've never tried uploading an SVG file). Do you actually need SVG for something specific? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:08, 20 April 2011 (MEST)
::Yes thats a big UI step, I see. But for me it's not that nice to switch between different styles. Anyway thats not that important :)
:: Yes SVG will allow everybody to upload and update schemes, diagrams etc. that would be static otherwise. It prevents to use a lot of material of the Creative Commons database that could be used using interwiki links. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)
:::Is anything happened on the SVG issue already? Sorry past weeks were busy --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:20, 11 May 2011 (MEST)

:Ok template:langues worksbut it lacks the collapsing feature. This is done by [[:template:hidden]] but I guess it seem to lack a few CSS definitions? Check it out at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden wikipedia] --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

::Please tell me what you're trying to do, as I don't really understand it. You're recently copied over a number of language-related templates from Wikipedia: [[Template:LanguageExistingEn]], [[Template:LanguageLink]], [[Template:LanguageExisting]], [[Template:Languages]]. Are you trying to have the links to different languages be on the left column of the page, as is the case in Wikipedia? If so, it doesn't seem to be working. What you've done [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=FAQ&oldid=7714 here] is rather ugly. Please do any ''experiments'' on a ''test'' page rather than a functioning page that's in use. And no way are we EVER going to have more than a few languages, anyway, so it makes no sense to me to have so many redlinks... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:31, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::You are right, it would be better if I used a testpage only and not a productive one :/ Well yes I try to get a top menu working, that adapts to the language a page is translated for. For example [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Presse]. The redlinks will disappear if the CSS/JS is extended and SVG is fixed. I guess the files were interwiki by wikicommons, if not i will add them, of course. Sorry if my action sometimes look a bit hectic, I promise to be more patient :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Okay, thanks for explaining. I would prefer to handle different languages like they are on Wikipedia (as a sidebar) - although if that's not possible (or too much work), that language template is an acceptable alternative. If we end up using the language template, I think it should be present not on every single page, but only on the ones that are translated into at least one other language. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:44, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Sure, that handling is up to us. But see, this would make it very easy to others to create translations. But I'm not a big fan of internationalization (for that a small community) due to the outdating of pages. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::To be honest, I think those little flags that are currently on the main page look much nicer than the language template does in the link that you provided. If we end up using a top-of-the-page template for other languages, I'd rather have the flags than the language names. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:29, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Again, if the templates are in use, it's up to us to change their representation layer [[:Template:Languages/Interface]]. But yes flags seem to save space and look a bit sexier :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Just trying to picture it here, I think the best option would be to have the links to different languages be on the right side of the page, like an infobox. So it might say "Translations of this page:" and then a few flags. That seems like a nice, clean way to do it. I think that's better than putting it over the ''entire'' top, because this way it doesn't hinder people who start reading from the top of the article. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 10:05, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Not sure if that is a good argument as a lot of wikis I saw use a very similar template. Anyway if it works right we can change the design. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::Well, [http://i.imgur.com/gGeqg.gif here's a mockup] of what I'm proposing. It's pretty similar to what those other wikis use; I just think it looks less ugly. The "add a translation" link could go to an instruction page that says: "if you want to add a translation, find the two-letter code of your language, and make a page with that code in front of it". Or maybe instead of "add a translation", it could say "missing languages" as it does on the example you linked.
:::::::Anyway... so how is that template supposed to automatically recognize which pages are translated? Does it look for whether there's a page with the same title with a two-letter language code in front of it? But some pages will have different titles in different languages - I'm not sure how you could get around adding the languages in manually. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:58, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::[http://i.imgur.com/YSWJ6.png Here's my second mockup]. And once you click on "show missing languages", it will look like [http://i.imgur.com/et5at.png this]. To be listed, a "missing language" must have a translation of the main page of this wiki. That seems like a good compromise to avoid listing hundreds of languages... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:38, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::They look awesome, but to be honest, I would expect this choice on the top of the page :/ With this nitty flags it doesn't consume to much space. The other great thing of the hidden languages is that you can add a translation to a page easily, that is missed in your mockups, right? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:31, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::::"that is missed in your mockups, right?" - nope, check out the second proposal. It's structured the same as the one you linked to, but with flags instead of language names and on the right side of the page instead of right at the top. I think it is better to have it on the right side so as not to distract most readers by being right at the top. Most readers will not be looking for other languages but to start reading the article. Also, if you look on various websites that are multilingual, the little flags to change languages are usually in the right-hand corner of the page, so this will be familiar. With the flags, as you said, it will take up very little horizontal space, so there is no reason to have it take up more space than is needed. Taking up ALL of the top horizontal space only makes sense if you're going to write out each language name in text, because that would take up too much ''vertical'' space if you kept it to the upper right. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 15:25, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:BTW I checked out, that you can change the skin already now to Vector, that is the new Mediawiki user interface everywhere. Douch, guess I should read the manual first ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:00, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

ABC, I was wondering if you could give me a tip about [[Template:LanguageLink]]. Do you know how I would make it so that the two-letter language code would generate not the name of the language, but a certain flag? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:27, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
:Over at OSM weuse this template [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Countryflag] but this uses interwiki commons graphics that are SVG again :/ You might adapt it to your flags here, of course. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:46, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

== Goals of this wiki ==

Hi there, just a simple questions before I start any harder refactoring or contributing to this wiki. What are the main goals for this platform? What usecases do you spot on? How established is it within the pandora community?

Maybe we should make an IRC session focused on further plans on the wiki? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:54, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I would prefer to keep such discussions in a place with a permanent record of what is posted. Also because many of the contributors contribute every so often, and I'd rather leave the discussion open to more eyes than have an intense IRC discussion of just a few people. If you'd like a wider discussion, you could start a topic in the GP32X Pandora general section... or we could keep it here and accept that it may not move as quickly as you'd like.
:Now then, as for the goals: This wiki started out <s>two</s> three years ago largely because the Pandora team didn't have the time or the resources to put together a comprehensive user manual for the Pandora, so they decided to outsource the task to the community. Well, that actually happened a bit later, but it was a major project, anyway. These days, the wiki generally acts as a place where Pandora owners write down important things for reference. The sorts of things that would have gotten lost with the passage of time on the forums. The main activity happens on the forums, and the wiki is like the "long-term memory" of the community. Hence, the [[tutorials]], the various tips and tricks that you see in different articles, hardware documentation, bug reports, and software lists. This is all here so that important things don't get forgotten just because they were done a long time ago. A lot of devs use it for the same reason, as a place to have an organized reference of the things they're working on. So in large part, the wiki is like a collection of what once would have been spread out on different sites - most articles were created mainly by one person.
:My main task in bringing the disparate elements together into a structure I see like this: to make sure that all related articles are linked to each other, via wikilinks or categories. But I don't try to interfere in stylistic decisions much. A lot of it is "not my business", frankly, especially the dev articles. ;) If I, personally as a Pandora owner, care about the organization of a particular article, I'll make a case for changing it in the talk page, or do the changes right away if I'm pretty sure that they'll be uncontroversial. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:03, 26 April 2011 (MEST)

== News bar? ==

Hi, what do you think about adding a newslist to the mainpage collecting all informations of the different forums and listing the official announcements? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:34, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I don't really see the need for official announcements - we have the [http://stalker.openpandora.org/ Pandora Stalker] and PandoraPress for that. Who decides what is "official"? As for "community news", those are already collected on the three software lists. One can subscribe to the RSS feed of those articles and thereby keep abreast of the latest events - or simply check them once in a while and sort by date to see what you missed. As I said above, I think the wiki is more like the long-term-memory of the community; the reference library rather than the TV channel. It's hard work to keep it up-to-date as it is. Are you volunteering to keep the news up-to-date if we add a news bar? The development of the wiki rests largely on who's willing to do the developing. ;) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:31, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
::Well updating is not the problem but to get the news. I'm not very excited about the currently very distributed communication infrastructure and so I think it might be a good chance to collect them at a single point so newbies doesn't have to checkout a lot of portals or semi official blogs...--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:32, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:::So the question remains, who's going to keep it updated? If news is never updated, it is not news. So... what exactly are you proposing? Transcluding several RSS feeds from other sources? Perhaps using [http://www.rssmix.com/ RSSmix] to combine the most important places where news is posted? For example, the software projects edit history, PandoraPress, the Official blog, some Youtube channels? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:22, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
:::Yes but by a human filter/merger. The most Blogs publish the same informations that are mostly just the official news. So what about exchanging news between the boards that get filtered by priority? Well ok, I guess we pause the discussion here and see if the wiki might get more popular, then we can return on thinking on high frequency news ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:42, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Yep... the content is decided by who's willing to work on it. Not a lot of people are willing to work on something more than a small edit here and there (but even those can be very helpful). If anyone takes it into their heads to work on a big new project here, far be it from me to discourage them! I'll just make sure that what they're working on is connected to the rest of the wiki. But of course, it's often easier to ''start'' big projects than to ''maintain'' them. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 10:19, 29 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Full ack. I will take some time to think about this idea but currently there are more important task as merging the german wiki back to here, add new content and extend articles :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:37, 29 April 2011 (MEST)

== Merging with german wiki ==

Hi, sorry for putting that much topics on your todo list, but I like to ask even here if you would give the [http://wiki.openpandora.de german wiki users] a warm welcome? AFAIK there is currently only one maintainer left, but their wiki is quite good organized and has some really interesting aspects (e.g. icons for buttons,...). To me it sounds wise to first cleanup our own articles and then merge both wikis and use this process to update all the articles --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 23:17, 25 April 2011 (MEST)
:Hi there, I'm the last active editor of the German wiki. During the [http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php?t=12092 discussion (German)] about how to best solve the problem of transferring the existing category system into a wiki with a different categorization one user brought up the idea of doing it like Wikipedia and have quasi-separate wikis that are linked through a language bar on the left of the screen. I previously discussed that solution with ABC and we came to the conclusion that we can't do it because it would probably be too much of an effort and we both didn't know how to do it anyway. Said user on the other hand (his name is T4b, let's call him that) offered to do exactly that. While that would make the job of transferring the German wiki to pandorawiki.org quite a bit easier it would mean a big change for the wiki as it exists, at least if you don't want to leave all the other languages in the English wiki (with prefixes). So what do you think? --[[User:Lockenlord|Lockenlord]] 00:55, 30 April 2011 (MEST)
::Well as said on the german page I would prefer one single wiki so we could keep images, templates,... together. But anyway if T4b can do this job I would accept it, of course. Everything that brings both wikis a bit clother is a tep in the right direction :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:18, 11 May 2011 (MEST)

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== Dutch translation ==

@ Orkie: Seeing as The Netherlands has a [http://www.gpark.nl GP2X community] too (and (although) indirectly, Pandora), it might be useful to add a link to it. I'm even willing to do (some) Dutch translations for the Wiki. ;) --[[User:SharQueDo|SharQueDo]] 11:57, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
: Sure, I'll do it when I get chance. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

== Finnish translation ==

I would like to do a finnish translation of the page, I just need you guys to link the main page to http://pandorawiki.org/Fi:Main_page and create the finlands flag symbol.
: Great, same as above. I'll dig out a flag icon and set up a new category later today. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

: I think I will have time to start the translation project in Sunday and I will be working on it for some time. For starters I will be translating about pandora and Faq, but I will also add thinks that finnish people always ask me to faq. I plan to update as the english version updates and add stuff in the user category, in the developer category I will just put links to the english versions because you just have to know english to do that stuff. (besides, I don't think that I'm the right person to translate developer stuff) [[User:Gaeryc|Gaeryc]] 21:45, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
==Icelandic translation ==
i have translated the Main Page in to icelandic

http://pandorawiki.org/Is:Main_Page
--[[User:Andri12|Andri12]] 06:58, 20 April 2008 (CEST)

== Czech translation ==

Can you add Czech translation link http://pandorawiki.org/Cz:Main_page please? I'd like to make some translations to Czech language. Thanks.
: Sure, sorry it has taken a few days to get around to it. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 19:47, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

== Spanish Translation ==

Anybody working on this?<br />
If not, what dialect should it be in? (I can only do some of the Latin American dialects, not much of any Spain/Castillian) You may consider having two namespaces: one for the European dialect (''Es:'') and one for Latin American dialect (''La:'') <br />
[[User:Nat1192|Nat1192]] 02:11, 1 October 2008 (CEST)

== German translation ==
Hey, I would like to do a german translation of this page. First i will link to the english articles. <br />
[[User:Shorty Meeks|Shorty Meeks]] 16:58, 7 December 2008 (CEST)

== French translation ==
There was already a basic French page. I'm slowly updating it and a bunch of other pages. [[User:KodeIn|KodeIn]] 21:38, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Allow editing==
Please allow all established users to edit this page. The requests are completely backlogged, and the front page is getting more and more outdated. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:24, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
:Thank you for updating it, EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 12:13, 15 July 2010 (MEST)
::Just a thought... we could make templates for the different sections to this page (About Pandora, links, user links, dev links) and then have this page use those templates. That would mean any logged in user could edit it, which ''is'' slightly dangerous for reasons of spam but does make it so it can be edited by everyone, they just couldn't get at the layout of the page. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 09:11, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
:::Or just add a couple of users as explicit editors. The template suggestion seems OK, since anyone could revert spam, but we don't have 24/7 coverage of recent changes.--[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 12:19, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
::::I agree that would be the best choice, but ED is the only active admin and I don't think he's familiar enough administering a wiki or he would have done it already, that or he's too busy. I've gone ahead with the template idea and sent him an updated main page, it should be up within a day or two. Hopefully the spammers won't realize they can now access part of the main page and start spamming like crazy. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 07:37, 21 July 2010 (MEST)

==Will X Run on the Pandora?==

We have an article with this name. http://pandorawiki.org/Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora%3F It really SHOULD be added to the main page, under Users. It's begging to be used more often! I've already put it on the Port Requests page.

[[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 22:49, 22 January 2011 (MET)BlueProtoman

:The main page uses templates to bring in the links, so we don't need admins to update it. See (or edit): [[Template:MainPageUsersLinks]]. Feel free to add it there if no one objects to it. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 04:00, 23 January 2011 (MET)

::Wow... I had no idea. Thanks a bunch, Cheese. The [[Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora?]] article is quite rough at the moment though, so I don't know... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:45, 23 January 2011 (MET)
::Oh, I see that someone cleaned it up a bit so that it doesn't overlap with the software list articles. That was a good idea. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:48, 23 January 2011 (MET)

That was me. Also, I didn't know it ran off a template. If that's the case, I'll add the page now. Thanks. [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 15:20, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Move Hardware hacking from Users to Developers ?==

That's said--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:14, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:It has nothing to do with developers, though... i.e. I had to do some so-called "hardware hacking" as a user because my stylus was stuck when I got my unit. Also, DaveC is known for hardware hacking but is certainly not a developer. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:05, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::Ok, so the french main page has to be changed--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:40, 27 February 2011 (MET)

== Wiki Translation tips ==

Anyone ?--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:41, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:What's your question? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:06, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::I don't know how to proceed efficiently... Read a lot of wikis but never edited seriously :/--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:39, 27 February 2011 (MET)
:::Maybe have several tabs open, one with the original page, one with the translated page that you're creating, one with Google Translate? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:19, 17 March 2011 (MET)

== What happened to the logo? ==

Title. The logo's missing in favor of a placeholder, and I don't know why. Anyone care to explain? [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 14:58, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:ED updated to the latest MediaWiki and changed the captcha to something more complex at my request, to get rid of the constant spam problems that we've had the past few weeks. It seems to have worked, but the logo seems to have gotten lost in the process. He's understandably quite busy, but I hope that eventually he'll find some time to put it back in (I'd do it, but I suspect I don't have access to that part of the site - though I'm not entirely sure). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:17, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:Instructions for setting a logo image are [http://kb.siteground.com/article/How_to_change_my_MediaWiki_logo_image.html here]. I don't think I have access to LocalSettings.php, though. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:24, 17 March 2011 (MET)
::It's nice to see that we're running the newest version now, I didn't realize ED had access to the server. Yep, you need write access to the files on the server to change the logo URL, there's no way to set it from the admin interface. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 23:29, 17 March 2011 (MET)

==Houston, we have a problem!==
"Upload file" on the wiki no longer works. When I try, I get a message saying "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver." I've notified ED about this. I hope he checks his PMs from time to time. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:26, 25 March 2011 (MET)
:By the way, this is now fixed. And we have a logo again. :) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:14, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

==Second Problem==
Translation disappears !!! --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:58, 6 April 2011 (MEST)
:What? Where? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:47, 7 April 2011 (MEST)
::Clicked on the french page to edit this and there like when i have time
http://pandorawiki.org/Fr:Main_Page gives Fr:Main Page
There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page.

Clicking on some other flags gave the same answer :/ --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 21:21, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
:Bizarre. I'll have to ask EvilDragon about this... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 21:36, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
::I also have to add that every contribution to the french page has been removed from my history... weird --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 13:01, 9 April 2011 (MEST)
:::[[:Category:Emulator_Compatibility|these pages]] have disappeared as well. I'm ''certain'' that they were there before the latest update, but now they're gone along with the edit histories. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::So do we have to start over again TT ? --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:51, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Let's give ED a while to see if he can figure out what went wrong, first... it's possible that he might be able to recover those pages. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:42, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
: I would suggest to use the [[:template:languages]] that adds a list of translations on top of the page. Due to a bug it doesn't hiddes all remaining languages, but this will work if we fix the wiki config --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 00:11, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::For my proposal about what the "languages" template should look like, please see the "Updating Mediawiki" thread below this one. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

At least some of the missing pages can be [http://replay.web.archive.org/20090402132152/http://pandorawiki.org/Main_Page seen on Archive.org in the 2009 snapshot of the wiki]. For example, [http://replay.web.archive.org/20090425145019/http://pandorawiki.org/Fr:Main_Page here's the French-language main page]. Maybe until someone figures out what happened (EvilDragon tried, but with no success so far), those can be used to reconstruct what was lost... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:23, 1 May 2011 (MEST)

== Right to change the mainpage ==

Hi Orkie,

I would like to help to clean up the wiki and therefore outsource templates, reorder mainpage etc. Might you grant me the right to do so, please?

:Orkie is no longer around, ABC. Neither is Chip. The only admins active now are myself and EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:20, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:You're free to improve the wiki of course, but please add a discussion topic in the relevant talk page before you decide to start on any radical changes that may be controversial and difficult to undo. This is better for all sides, because if you go in too rashly, you risk having all your work undone if someone heavily disagrees with what you propose. So if you have anything radical in mind, it might be better to start a "fork" page first (like [[Games (fork)|this one]]), then if nobody objects it can be brought over to the main article.

:By the way, what do you mean about "outsourcing templates"? And what specifically on the main page don't you like? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:12, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Sorry was my fault, you already use templates so I could just do some little reordering. I would like to remove the language flags, I try to get [[:template:languages]] working instead, which is checking if the pages have translations or not.
:I understand your point of view, concerning critical edits. Currently I just do refactoring and reformatting so nothing that affects the content or structure to heavy. I guess a discussion would be necessary before renaming some of the pages.--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

== Updating Mediawiki ==

Hi, are there any concerns on updating this instance to a more recent version? I'm always confused to have the searchbar at the left side without outocomplete and SVG is currently unsupported :/ --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 18:22, 19 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I personally think the new look of Wikipedia is pretty ugly and inefficient, so I'm a fan of keeping the cosmetics as they are. ;) EvilDragon actually updated to the latest MediaWiki just recently to combat a spam problem that we had. It might've messed up a few other things, though (see discussion in the above topics). The SVG thing isn't that great, if true (I've never tried uploading an SVG file). Do you actually need SVG for something specific? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:08, 20 April 2011 (MEST)
::Yes thats a big UI step, I see. But for me it's not that nice to switch between different styles. Anyway thats not that important :)
:: Yes SVG will allow everybody to upload and update schemes, diagrams etc. that would be static otherwise. It prevents to use a lot of material of the Creative Commons database that could be used using interwiki links. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Ok template:langues worksbut it lacks the collapsing feature. This is done by [[:template:hidden]] but I guess it seem to lack a few CSS definitions? Check it out at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden wikipedia] --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

::Please tell me what you're trying to do, as I don't really understand it. You're recently copied over a number of language-related templates from Wikipedia: [[Template:LanguageExistingEn]], [[Template:LanguageLink]], [[Template:LanguageExisting]], [[Template:Languages]]. Are you trying to have the links to different languages be on the left column of the page, as is the case in Wikipedia? If so, it doesn't seem to be working. What you've done [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=FAQ&oldid=7714 here] is rather ugly. Please do any ''experiments'' on a ''test'' page rather than a functioning page that's in use. And no way are we EVER going to have more than a few languages, anyway, so it makes no sense to me to have so many redlinks... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:31, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::You are right, it would be better if I used a testpage only and not a productive one :/ Well yes I try to get a top menu working, that adapts to the language a page is translated for. For example [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Presse]. The redlinks will disappear if the CSS/JS is extended and SVG is fixed. I guess the files were interwiki by wikicommons, if not i will add them, of course. Sorry if my action sometimes look a bit hectic, I promise to be more patient :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Okay, thanks for explaining. I would prefer to handle different languages like they are on Wikipedia (as a sidebar) - although if that's not possible (or too much work), that language template is an acceptable alternative. If we end up using the language template, I think it should be present not on every single page, but only on the ones that are translated into at least one other language. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:44, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Sure, that handling is up to us. But see, this would make it very easy to others to create translations. But I'm not a big fan of internationalization (for that a small community) due to the outdating of pages. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::To be honest, I think those little flags that are currently on the main page look much nicer than the language template does in the link that you provided. If we end up using a top-of-the-page template for other languages, I'd rather have the flags than the language names. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:29, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Again, if the templates are in use, it's up to us to change their representation layer [[:Template:Languages/Interface]]. But yes flags seem to save space and look a bit sexier :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Just trying to picture it here, I think the best option would be to have the links to different languages be on the right side of the page, like an infobox. So it might say "Translations of this page:" and then a few flags. That seems like a nice, clean way to do it. I think that's better than putting it over the ''entire'' top, because this way it doesn't hinder people who start reading from the top of the article. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 10:05, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Not sure if that is a good argument as a lot of wikis I saw use a very similar template. Anyway if it works right we can change the design. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::Well, [http://i.imgur.com/gGeqg.gif here's a mockup] of what I'm proposing. It's pretty similar to what those other wikis use; I just think it looks less ugly. The "add a translation" link could go to an instruction page that says: "if you want to add a translation, find the two-letter code of your language, and make a page with that code in front of it". Or maybe instead of "add a translation", it could say "missing languages" as it does on the example you linked.
:::::::Anyway... so how is that template supposed to automatically recognize which pages are translated? Does it look for whether there's a page with the same title with a two-letter language code in front of it? But some pages will have different titles in different languages - I'm not sure how you could get around adding the languages in manually. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:58, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::[http://i.imgur.com/YSWJ6.png Here's my second mockup]. And once you click on "show missing languages", it will look like [http://i.imgur.com/et5at.png this]. To be listed, a "missing language" must have a translation of the main page of this wiki. That seems like a good compromise to avoid listing hundreds of languages... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:38, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::They look awesome, but to be honest, I would expect this choice on the top of the page :/ With this nitty flags it doesn't consume to much space. The other great thing of the hidden languages is that you can add a translation to a page easily, that is missed in your mockups, right? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:31, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::::"that is missed in your mockups, right?" - nope, check out the second proposal. It's structured the same as the one you linked to, but with flags instead of language names and on the right side of the page instead of right at the top. I think it is better to have it on the right side so as not to distract most readers by being right at the top. Most readers will not be looking for other languages but to start reading the article. Also, if you look on various websites that are multilingual, the little flags to change languages are usually in the right-hand corner of the page, so this will be familiar. With the flags, as you said, it will take up very little horizontal space, so there is no reason to have it take up more space than is needed. Taking up ALL of the top horizontal space only makes sense if you're going to write out each language name in text, because that would take up too much ''vertical'' space if you kept it to the upper right. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 15:25, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:BTW I checked out, that you can change the skin already now to Vector, that is the new Mediawiki user interface everywhere. Douch, guess I should read the manual first ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:00, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

ABC, I was wondering if you could give me a tip about [[Template:LanguageLink]]. Do you know how I would make it so that the two-letter language code would generate not the name of the language, but a certain flag? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:27, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
:Over at OSM weuse this template [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Countryflag] but this uses interwiki commons graphics that are SVG again :/ You might adapt it to your flags here, of course. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:46, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

== Goals of this wiki ==

Hi there, just a simple questions before I start any harder refactoring or contributing to this wiki. What are the main goals for this platform? What usecases do you spot on? How established is it within the pandora community?

Maybe we should make an IRC session focused on further plans on the wiki? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:54, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I would prefer to keep such discussions in a place with a permanent record of what is posted. Also because many of the contributors contribute every so often, and I'd rather leave the discussion open to more eyes than have an intense IRC discussion of just a few people. If you'd like a wider discussion, you could start a topic in the GP32X Pandora general section... or we could keep it here and accept that it may not move as quickly as you'd like.
:Now then, as for the goals: This wiki started out <s>two</s> three years ago largely because the Pandora team didn't have the time or the resources to put together a comprehensive user manual for the Pandora, so they decided to outsource the task to the community. Well, that actually happened a bit later, but it was a major project, anyway. These days, the wiki generally acts as a place where Pandora owners write down important things for reference. The sorts of things that would have gotten lost with the passage of time on the forums. The main activity happens on the forums, and the wiki is like the "long-term memory" of the community. Hence, the [[tutorials]], the various tips and tricks that you see in different articles, hardware documentation, bug reports, and software lists. This is all here so that important things don't get forgotten just because they were done a long time ago. A lot of devs use it for the same reason, as a place to have an organized reference of the things they're working on. So in large part, the wiki is like a collection of what once would have been spread out on different sites - most articles were created mainly by one person.
:My main task in bringing the disparate elements together into a structure I see like this: to make sure that all related articles are linked to each other, via wikilinks or categories. But I don't try to interfere in stylistic decisions much. A lot of it is "not my business", frankly, especially the dev articles. ;) If I, personally as a Pandora owner, care about the organization of a particular article, I'll make a case for changing it in the talk page, or do the changes right away if I'm pretty sure that they'll be uncontroversial. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:03, 26 April 2011 (MEST)

== News bar? ==

Hi, what do you think about adding a newslist to the mainpage collecting all informations of the different forums and listing the official announcements? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:34, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I don't really see the need for official announcements - we have the [http://stalker.openpandora.org/ Pandora Stalker] and PandoraPress for that. Who decides what is "official"? As for "community news", those are already collected on the three software lists. One can subscribe to the RSS feed of those articles and thereby keep abreast of the latest events - or simply check them once in a while and sort by date to see what you missed. As I said above, I think the wiki is more like the long-term-memory of the community; the reference library rather than the TV channel. It's hard work to keep it up-to-date as it is. Are you volunteering to keep the news up-to-date if we add a news bar? The development of the wiki rests largely on who's willing to do the developing. ;) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:31, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
::Well updating is not the problem but to get the news. I'm not very excited about the currently very distributed communication infrastructure and so I think it might be a good chance to collect them at a single point so newbies doesn't have to checkout a lot of portals or semi official blogs...--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:32, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:::So the question remains, who's going to keep it updated? If news is never updated, it is not news. So... what exactly are you proposing? Transcluding several RSS feeds from other sources? Perhaps using [http://www.rssmix.com/ RSSmix] to combine the most important places where news is posted? For example, the software projects edit history, PandoraPress, the Official blog, some Youtube channels? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:22, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
:::Yes but by a human filter/merger. The most Blogs publish the same informations that are mostly just the official news. So what about exchanging news between the boards that get filtered by priority? Well ok, I guess we pause the discussion here and see if the wiki might get more popular, then we can return on thinking on high frequency news ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:42, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Yep... the content is decided by who's willing to work on it. Not a lot of people are willing to work on something more than a small edit here and there (but even those can be very helpful). If anyone takes it into their heads to work on a big new project here, far be it from me to discourage them! I'll just make sure that what they're working on is connected to the rest of the wiki. But of course, it's often easier to ''start'' big projects than to ''maintain'' them. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 10:19, 29 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Full ack. I will take some time to think about this idea but currently there are more important task as merging the german wiki back to here, add new content and extend articles :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:37, 29 April 2011 (MEST)

== Merging with german wiki ==

Hi, sorry for putting that much topics on your todo list, but I like to ask even here if you would give the [http://wiki.openpandora.de german wiki users] a warm welcome? AFAIK there is currently only one maintainer left, but their wiki is quite good organized and has some really interesting aspects (e.g. icons for buttons,...). To me it sounds wise to first cleanup our own articles and then merge both wikis and use this process to update all the articles --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 23:17, 25 April 2011 (MEST)
:Hi there, I'm the last active editor of the German wiki. During the [http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php?t=12092 discussion (German)] about how to best solve the problem of transferring the existing category system into a wiki with a different categorization one user brought up the idea of doing it like Wikipedia and have quasi-separate wikis that are linked through a language bar on the left of the screen. I previously discussed that solution with ABC and we came to the conclusion that we can't do it because it would probably be too much of an effort and we both didn't know how to do it anyway. Said user on the other hand (his name is T4b, let's call him that) offered to do exactly that. While that would make the job of transferring the German wiki to pandorawiki.org quite a bit easier it would mean a big change for the wiki as it exists, at least if you don't want to leave all the other languages in the English wiki (with prefixes). So what do you think? --[[User:Lockenlord|Lockenlord]] 00:55, 30 April 2011 (MEST)
::Well as said on the german page I would prefer one single wiki so we could keep images, templates,... together. But anyway if T4b can do this job I would accept it, of course. Everything that brings both wikis a bit clother is a tep in the right direction :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:18, 11 May 2011 (MEST)

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== Dutch translation ==

@ Orkie: Seeing as The Netherlands has a [http://www.gpark.nl GP2X community] too (and (although) indirectly, Pandora), it might be useful to add a link to it. I'm even willing to do (some) Dutch translations for the Wiki. ;) --[[User:SharQueDo|SharQueDo]] 11:57, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
: Sure, I'll do it when I get chance. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

== Finnish translation ==

I would like to do a finnish translation of the page, I just need you guys to link the main page to http://pandorawiki.org/Fi:Main_page and create the finlands flag symbol.
: Great, same as above. I'll dig out a flag icon and set up a new category later today. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

: I think I will have time to start the translation project in Sunday and I will be working on it for some time. For starters I will be translating about pandora and Faq, but I will also add thinks that finnish people always ask me to faq. I plan to update as the english version updates and add stuff in the user category, in the developer category I will just put links to the english versions because you just have to know english to do that stuff. (besides, I don't think that I'm the right person to translate developer stuff) [[User:Gaeryc|Gaeryc]] 21:45, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
==Icelandic translation ==
i have translated the Main Page in to icelandic

http://pandorawiki.org/Is:Main_Page
--[[User:Andri12|Andri12]] 06:58, 20 April 2008 (CEST)

== Czech translation ==

Can you add Czech translation link http://pandorawiki.org/Cz:Main_page please? I'd like to make some translations to Czech language. Thanks.
: Sure, sorry it has taken a few days to get around to it. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 19:47, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

== Spanish Translation ==

Anybody working on this?<br />
If not, what dialect should it be in? (I can only do some of the Latin American dialects, not much of any Spain/Castillian) You may consider having two namespaces: one for the European dialect (''Es:'') and one for Latin American dialect (''La:'') <br />
[[User:Nat1192|Nat1192]] 02:11, 1 October 2008 (CEST)

== German translation ==
Hey, I would like to do a german translation of this page. First i will link to the english articles. <br />
[[User:Shorty Meeks|Shorty Meeks]] 16:58, 7 December 2008 (CEST)

== French translation ==
There was already a basic French page. I'm slowly updating it and a bunch of other pages. [[User:KodeIn|KodeIn]] 21:38, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Allow editing==
Please allow all established users to edit this page. The requests are completely backlogged, and the front page is getting more and more outdated. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:24, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
:Thank you for updating it, EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 12:13, 15 July 2010 (MEST)
::Just a thought... we could make templates for the different sections to this page (About Pandora, links, user links, dev links) and then have this page use those templates. That would mean any logged in user could edit it, which ''is'' slightly dangerous for reasons of spam but does make it so it can be edited by everyone, they just couldn't get at the layout of the page. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 09:11, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
:::Or just add a couple of users as explicit editors. The template suggestion seems OK, since anyone could revert spam, but we don't have 24/7 coverage of recent changes.--[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 12:19, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
::::I agree that would be the best choice, but ED is the only active admin and I don't think he's familiar enough administering a wiki or he would have done it already, that or he's too busy. I've gone ahead with the template idea and sent him an updated main page, it should be up within a day or two. Hopefully the spammers won't realize they can now access part of the main page and start spamming like crazy. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 07:37, 21 July 2010 (MEST)

==Will X Run on the Pandora?==

We have an article with this name. http://pandorawiki.org/Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora%3F It really SHOULD be added to the main page, under Users. It's begging to be used more often! I've already put it on the Port Requests page.

[[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 22:49, 22 January 2011 (MET)BlueProtoman

:The main page uses templates to bring in the links, so we don't need admins to update it. See (or edit): [[Template:MainPageUsersLinks]]. Feel free to add it there if no one objects to it. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 04:00, 23 January 2011 (MET)

::Wow... I had no idea. Thanks a bunch, Cheese. The [[Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora?]] article is quite rough at the moment though, so I don't know... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:45, 23 January 2011 (MET)
::Oh, I see that someone cleaned it up a bit so that it doesn't overlap with the software list articles. That was a good idea. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:48, 23 January 2011 (MET)

That was me. Also, I didn't know it ran off a template. If that's the case, I'll add the page now. Thanks. [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 15:20, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Move Hardware hacking from Users to Developers ?==

That's said--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:14, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:It has nothing to do with developers, though... i.e. I had to do some so-called "hardware hacking" as a user because my stylus was stuck when I got my unit. Also, DaveC is known for hardware hacking but is certainly not a developer. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:05, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::Ok, so the french main page has to be changed--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:40, 27 February 2011 (MET)

== Wiki Translation tips ==

Anyone ?--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:41, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:What's your question? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:06, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::I don't know how to proceed efficiently... Read a lot of wikis but never edited seriously :/--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:39, 27 February 2011 (MET)
:::Maybe have several tabs open, one with the original page, one with the translated page that you're creating, one with Google Translate? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:19, 17 March 2011 (MET)

== What happened to the logo? ==

Title. The logo's missing in favor of a placeholder, and I don't know why. Anyone care to explain? [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 14:58, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:ED updated to the latest MediaWiki and changed the captcha to something more complex at my request, to get rid of the constant spam problems that we've had the past few weeks. It seems to have worked, but the logo seems to have gotten lost in the process. He's understandably quite busy, but I hope that eventually he'll find some time to put it back in (I'd do it, but I suspect I don't have access to that part of the site - though I'm not entirely sure). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:17, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:Instructions for setting a logo image are [http://kb.siteground.com/article/How_to_change_my_MediaWiki_logo_image.html here]. I don't think I have access to LocalSettings.php, though. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:24, 17 March 2011 (MET)
::It's nice to see that we're running the newest version now, I didn't realize ED had access to the server. Yep, you need write access to the files on the server to change the logo URL, there's no way to set it from the admin interface. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 23:29, 17 March 2011 (MET)

==Houston, we have a problem!==
"Upload file" on the wiki no longer works. When I try, I get a message saying "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver." I've notified ED about this. I hope he checks his PMs from time to time. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:26, 25 March 2011 (MET)
:By the way, this is now fixed. And we have a logo again. :) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:14, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

==Second Problem==
Translation disappears !!! --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:58, 6 April 2011 (MEST)
:What? Where? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:47, 7 April 2011 (MEST)
::Clicked on the french page to edit this and there like when i have time
http://pandorawiki.org/Fr:Main_Page gives Fr:Main Page
There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page.

Clicking on some other flags gave the same answer :/ --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 21:21, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
:Bizarre. I'll have to ask EvilDragon about this... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 21:36, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
::I also have to add that every contribution to the french page has been removed from my history... weird --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 13:01, 9 April 2011 (MEST)
:::[[:Category:Emulator_Compatibility|these pages]] have disappeared as well. I'm ''certain'' that they were there before the latest update, but now they're gone along with the edit histories. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::So do we have to start over again TT ? --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:51, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Let's give ED a while to see if he can figure out what went wrong, first... it's possible that he might be able to recover those pages. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:42, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
: I would suggest to use the [[:template:languages]] that adds a list of translations on top of the page. Due to a bug it doesn't hiddes all remaining languages, but this will work if we fix the wiki config --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 00:11, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::For my proposal about what the "languages" template should look like, please see the "Updating Mediawiki" thread below this one. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

== Right to change the mainpage ==

Hi Orkie,

I would like to help to clean up the wiki and therefore outsource templates, reorder mainpage etc. Might you grant me the right to do so, please?

:Orkie is no longer around, ABC. Neither is Chip. The only admins active now are myself and EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:20, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:You're free to improve the wiki of course, but please add a discussion topic in the relevant talk page before you decide to start on any radical changes that may be controversial and difficult to undo. This is better for all sides, because if you go in too rashly, you risk having all your work undone if someone heavily disagrees with what you propose. So if you have anything radical in mind, it might be better to start a "fork" page first (like [[Games (fork)|this one]]), then if nobody objects it can be brought over to the main article.

:By the way, what do you mean about "outsourcing templates"? And what specifically on the main page don't you like? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:12, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Sorry was my fault, you already use templates so I could just do some little reordering. I would like to remove the language flags, I try to get [[:template:languages]] working instead, which is checking if the pages have translations or not.
:I understand your point of view, concerning critical edits. Currently I just do refactoring and reformatting so nothing that affects the content or structure to heavy. I guess a discussion would be necessary before renaming some of the pages.--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

== Updating Mediawiki ==

Hi, are there any concerns on updating this instance to a more recent version? I'm always confused to have the searchbar at the left side without outocomplete and SVG is currently unsupported :/ --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 18:22, 19 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I personally think the new look of Wikipedia is pretty ugly and inefficient, so I'm a fan of keeping the cosmetics as they are. ;) EvilDragon actually updated to the latest MediaWiki just recently to combat a spam problem that we had. It might've messed up a few other things, though (see discussion in the above topics). The SVG thing isn't that great, if true (I've never tried uploading an SVG file). Do you actually need SVG for something specific? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:08, 20 April 2011 (MEST)
::Yes thats a big UI step, I see. But for me it's not that nice to switch between different styles. Anyway thats not that important :)
:: Yes SVG will allow everybody to upload and update schemes, diagrams etc. that would be static otherwise. It prevents to use a lot of material of the Creative Commons database that could be used using interwiki links. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Ok template:langues worksbut it lacks the collapsing feature. This is done by [[:template:hidden]] but I guess it seem to lack a few CSS definitions? Check it out at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden wikipedia] --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

::Please tell me what you're trying to do, as I don't really understand it. You're recently copied over a number of language-related templates from Wikipedia: [[Template:LanguageExistingEn]], [[Template:LanguageLink]], [[Template:LanguageExisting]], [[Template:Languages]]. Are you trying to have the links to different languages be on the left column of the page, as is the case in Wikipedia? If so, it doesn't seem to be working. What you've done [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=FAQ&oldid=7714 here] is rather ugly. Please do any ''experiments'' on a ''test'' page rather than a functioning page that's in use. And no way are we EVER going to have more than a few languages, anyway, so it makes no sense to me to have so many redlinks... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:31, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::You are right, it would be better if I used a testpage only and not a productive one :/ Well yes I try to get a top menu working, that adapts to the language a page is translated for. For example [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Presse]. The redlinks will disappear if the CSS/JS is extended and SVG is fixed. I guess the files were interwiki by wikicommons, if not i will add them, of course. Sorry if my action sometimes look a bit hectic, I promise to be more patient :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Okay, thanks for explaining. I would prefer to handle different languages like they are on Wikipedia (as a sidebar) - although if that's not possible (or too much work), that language template is an acceptable alternative. If we end up using the language template, I think it should be present not on every single page, but only on the ones that are translated into at least one other language. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:44, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Sure, that handling is up to us. But see, this would make it very easy to others to create translations. But I'm not a big fan of internationalization (for that a small community) due to the outdating of pages. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::To be honest, I think those little flags that are currently on the main page look much nicer than the language template does in the link that you provided. If we end up using a top-of-the-page template for other languages, I'd rather have the flags than the language names. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:29, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Again, if the templates are in use, it's up to us to change their representation layer [[:Template:Languages/Interface]]. But yes flags seem to save space and look a bit sexier :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Just trying to picture it here, I think the best option would be to have the links to different languages be on the right side of the page, like an infobox. So it might say "Translations of this page:" and then a few flags. That seems like a nice, clean way to do it. I think that's better than putting it over the ''entire'' top, because this way it doesn't hinder people who start reading from the top of the article. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 10:05, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Not sure if that is a good argument as a lot of wikis I saw use a very similar template. Anyway if it works right we can change the design. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::Well, [http://i.imgur.com/gGeqg.gif here's a mockup] of what I'm proposing. It's pretty similar to what those other wikis use; I just think it looks less ugly. The "add a translation" link could go to an instruction page that says: "if you want to add a translation, find the two-letter code of your language, and make a page with that code in front of it". Or maybe instead of "add a translation", it could say "missing languages" as it does on the example you linked.
:::::::Anyway... so how is that template supposed to automatically recognize which pages are translated? Does it look for whether there's a page with the same title with a two-letter language code in front of it? But some pages will have different titles in different languages - I'm not sure how you could get around adding the languages in manually. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:58, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::[http://i.imgur.com/YSWJ6.png Here's my second mockup]. And once you click on "show missing languages", it will look like [http://i.imgur.com/et5at.png this]. To be listed, a "missing language" must have a translation of the main page of this wiki. That seems like a good compromise to avoid listing hundreds of languages... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:38, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::They look awesome, but to be honest, I would expect this choice on the top of the page :/ With this nitty flags it doesn't consume to much space. The other great thing of the hidden languages is that you can add a translation to a page easily, that is missed in your mockups, right? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:31, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::::"that is missed in your mockups, right?" - nope, check out the second proposal. It's structured the same as the one you linked to, but with flags instead of language names and on the right side of the page instead of right at the top. I think it is better to have it on the right side so as not to distract most readers by being right at the top. Most readers will not be looking for other languages but to start reading the article. Also, if you look on various websites that are multilingual, the little flags to change languages are usually in the right-hand corner of the page, so this will be familiar. With the flags, as you said, it will take up very little horizontal space, so there is no reason to have it take up more space than is needed. Taking up ALL of the top horizontal space only makes sense if you're going to write out each language name in text, because that would take up too much ''vertical'' space if you kept it to the upper right. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 15:25, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:BTW I checked out, that you can change the skin already now to Vector, that is the new Mediawiki user interface everywhere. Douch, guess I should read the manual first ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:00, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

ABC, I was wondering if you could give me a tip about [[Template:LanguageLink]]. Do you know how I would make it so that the two-letter language code would generate not the name of the language, but a certain flag? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:27, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
:Over at OSM weuse this template [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Countryflag] but this uses interwiki commons graphics that are SVG again :/ You might adapt it to your flags here, of course. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:46, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

== Goals of this wiki ==

Hi there, just a simple questions before I start any harder refactoring or contributing to this wiki. What are the main goals for this platform? What usecases do you spot on? How established is it within the pandora community?

Maybe we should make an IRC session focused on further plans on the wiki? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:54, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I would prefer to keep such discussions in a place with a permanent record of what is posted. Also because many of the contributors contribute every so often, and I'd rather leave the discussion open to more eyes than have an intense IRC discussion of just a few people. If you'd like a wider discussion, you could start a topic in the GP32X Pandora general section... or we could keep it here and accept that it may not move as quickly as you'd like.
:Now then, as for the goals: This wiki started out <s>two</s> three years ago largely because the Pandora team didn't have the time or the resources to put together a comprehensive user manual for the Pandora, so they decided to outsource the task to the community. Well, that actually happened a bit later, but it was a major project, anyway. These days, the wiki generally acts as a place where Pandora owners write down important things for reference. The sorts of things that would have gotten lost with the passage of time on the forums. The main activity happens on the forums, and the wiki is like the "long-term memory" of the community. Hence, the [[tutorials]], the various tips and tricks that you see in different articles, hardware documentation, bug reports, and software lists. This is all here so that important things don't get forgotten just because they were done a long time ago. A lot of devs use it for the same reason, as a place to have an organized reference of the things they're working on. So in large part, the wiki is like a collection of what once would have been spread out on different sites - most articles were created mainly by one person.
:My main task in bringing the disparate elements together into a structure I see like this: to make sure that all related articles are linked to each other, via wikilinks or categories. But I don't try to interfere in stylistic decisions much. A lot of it is "not my business", frankly, especially the dev articles. ;) If I, personally as a Pandora owner, care about the organization of a particular article, I'll make a case for changing it in the talk page, or do the changes right away if I'm pretty sure that they'll be uncontroversial. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:03, 26 April 2011 (MEST)

== News bar? ==

Hi, what do you think about adding a newslist to the mainpage collecting all informations of the different forums and listing the official announcements? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:34, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I don't really see the need for official announcements - we have the [http://stalker.openpandora.org/ Pandora Stalker] and PandoraPress for that. Who decides what is "official"? As for "community news", those are already collected on the three software lists. One can subscribe to the RSS feed of those articles and thereby keep abreast of the latest events - or simply check them once in a while and sort by date to see what you missed. As I said above, I think the wiki is more like the long-term-memory of the community; the reference library rather than the TV channel. It's hard work to keep it up-to-date as it is. Are you volunteering to keep the news up-to-date if we add a news bar? The development of the wiki rests largely on who's willing to do the developing. ;) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:31, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
::Well updating is not the problem but to get the news. I'm not very excited about the currently very distributed communication infrastructure and so I think it might be a good chance to collect them at a single point so newbies doesn't have to checkout a lot of portals or semi official blogs...--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:32, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:::So the question remains, who's going to keep it updated? If news is never updated, it is not news. So... what exactly are you proposing? Transcluding several RSS feeds from other sources? Perhaps using [http://www.rssmix.com/ RSSmix] to combine the most important places where news is posted? For example, the software projects edit history, PandoraPress, the Official blog, some Youtube channels? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:22, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
:::Yes but by a human filter/merger. The most Blogs publish the same informations that are mostly just the official news. So what about exchanging news between the boards that get filtered by priority? Well ok, I guess we pause the discussion here and see if the wiki might get more popular, then we can return on thinking on high frequency news ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:42, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Yep... the content is decided by who's willing to work on it. Not a lot of people are willing to work on something more than a small edit here and there (but even those can be very helpful). If anyone takes it into their heads to work on a big new project here, far be it from me to discourage them! I'll just make sure that what they're working on is connected to the rest of the wiki. But of course, it's often easier to ''start'' big projects than to ''maintain'' them. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 10:19, 29 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Full ack. I will take some time to think about this idea but currently there are more important task as merging the german wiki back to here, add new content and extend articles :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:37, 29 April 2011 (MEST)

== Merging with german wiki ==

Hi, sorry for putting that much topics on your todo list, but I like to ask even here if you would give the [http://wiki.openpandora.de german wiki users] a warm welcome? AFAIK there is currently only one maintainer left, but their wiki is quite good organized and has some really interesting aspects (e.g. icons for buttons,...). To me it sounds wise to first cleanup our own articles and then merge both wikis and use this process to update all the articles --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 23:17, 25 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Port requests

2011-04-29T08:35:33Z

ABC: /* Goals for this page */ rename pages would be good

{{TalkEtiquette}}

Numptyphysics is shown here: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/
Seems to be supported already - Didn't test it yet though

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The last Carrier Instant Messenger SVN change was 2 month ago, do we really need that? Isn't Pidgin enough? We should have some sort of priority system because I have the feeling that some games and apps are just added here to have a bigger list - no matter what quality the entries are. Personally I know a lot of people who use Pidgin, no-one seems to have used Carrier yet. --JayFoxRox
:Well, I use Carrier. It was created because Pidgin had( has) an annoying feature that the developers in charge refused to make optional. They generally keep up with Pidgin versions, although it's one version behind at the moment. As I understand it, this is basically a list of ''portable'' apps that are wanted by at least one person from the Pandora community. It would be problematic making a "priority system". The point, I think, is for the devs to just scroll around and see if there's anything that they'd like to port. I guess one way to make a "priority system" is to have some kind of voting or something... in which case, a developer can choose some apps from here and start a poll on the GP32X forums to see which is most popular. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 09:17, 27 May 2009 (CEST)
:P.S. You can sign your name and date with four tildes at the end of your message ~ ~ ~ ~ (but without spaces). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 09:20, 27 May 2009 (CEST)

Does anyone know why GemRB [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=1356&oldid=1354 was removed]? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:29, 7 June 2009 (CEST)

Just had a poke around, turns out GemRB is now a WIP courtesy of Adventus. ;-) We need to (somehow) encourage people to use the Summary box when making changes! [[User:Gruso|Gruso]] 23:27, 7 June 2009 (CEST)

I added a bunch of stuff to the list, I hope it can be interesting to some people. But it's a pain to order the list alphabetically, any form of automatize the proccess? [[User:Timofonic|Timofonic]] 19:43, 2 January 2010 (MET)
:You could enter everything in willy-nilly and sort by the name column, but that would make it really difficult for ''editors'' to find something, as well as looking messy for anyone who doesn't click on the little square above the column. Best to leave it as is, I think. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 15:13, 5 July 2010 (MEST)

==Why were almost all emulators replaced with MESS?==
[http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=3727&oldid=3722 This edit] seems odd to me. Does MESS really do the best job at emulating ALL of those systems? Won't some emulators run quicker on a system with limited resources such as the Pandora? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:34, 19 September 2010 (MEST)
[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]](sorry for date being off) well some emulators were for systems we already had like nes and such. Then there were obscure Japanese emulators that only ran on windows. Then there was a mainframe emulator.There were also calculator emulators and those are covered by mess. Really mess covers many systems and it could still run faster. There are still things like using the neon to speed up sdl that evildragon hasn't implemented yet.

==Game engines==
I don't get why [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=3961&oldid=3960 they were all deleted]. If they had no right being here, why had they stayed up so long with no objections from anyone?

Maybe you're right, but I'd like to hear what others think. Also, who says that the list is only for "things that can be a PND"? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:09, 3 November 2010 (MET)

Game engine can be put in a PND. GemRB is a game engine allowing to play 4 games and is in a PND... This should stay here IMHO
--[[User:Sebt3|Sebt3]] 01:17, 4 November 2010 (MET)

==Objection==
I'm sorry for removing some of your useful edits with [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=4032&oldid=4030 this], but you keep removing stuff that I object to removing even after I have repeatedly stated my reasons, and providing no justification. Please remember that this is a wiki, not your personal site, and many people have added things here that YOU may not think need to be ported, but that doesn't matter, because THEY do, and if you think you know better than them, you're going to at least have to provide your reasons and convince others that you're right. Otherwise, we're just going to have edit wars and this will get ugly fast. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:56, 4 November 2010 (MET)
[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 15:20, 6 November 2010(date's off)i'll add engines back
:Thank you for adding remarks back, also. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:35, 4 November 2010 (MET)

I undid the Nov. 23 edit because 1) I don't understand why an addressbook is unneeded. 2) KToon has features that Pencil does not, and vice versa. Just because a program is in the same category certainly doesn't mean that it can do all the same things! [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:04, 25 November 2010 (MET)

Also, just in general, you have a tendency of removing programs in the same category if there's another program that you like better. What's the point? Isn't that like saying there's no point of porting Chrome if Firefox is already ported, for example? Everybody has their own preferences. Programs always have some feature differences, and for some people feature X is more important, while for someone else feature Y.

For example, look [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Gnutella_software#Gnutella_features here], and you'll see that Frostwire/LimeWire (which you replaced with gtk-gnutella) actually has more features. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:19, 25 November 2010 (MET)

I removed rubrica as I thought it made more sense to do things on an app by app basis . Like having email contacts in email and im stuff in pidgin and birthdays in a calender rather than having a central app,that does it. I thought on a system like the pandora it made sense to have gtk-gnutella rather than frostwire as frostwire is way slower and do you really need chat in gnutella. Also it does bittorent but we have transmission already. Hey, I'll do what you say. I just wish more stuff got ported.[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 18:24, 25 November 2010 (MET)

Hey, you may be right - I'm just figuring that maybe if someone added something, they had a good idea for wanting it instead of another thing. This would actually be a perfect thing to mention in the "remarks" section; if gtk-gnutella would be faster, say that in the remarks so that it might influence coders who're deciding which one of them to port. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 22:04, 25 November 2010 (MET)

== Remote Administration ==
In this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNfZBUC89Q&feature=youtube_gdata video] Remmina seems to work good. Does PuTTY have some big feature that Remmina doesn't ? could PuTTY be removed? [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 02:35, 26 November 2010 (MET)
:I'm not sure, as I don't use either. I've found a list of features of PuTTY [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PuTTY#Features here] and Remmina [http://remmina.sourceforge.net/features.shtml here]. It seems to have some differences. But again, I don't use either program. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:37, 26 November 2010 (MET)

::PuTTY is for tty connections, like ssh, telnet, serial ports, etc. Remmina seems to be primarily for graphical remote administration. I use PuTTY on Windows, but it's less useful on Linux since there are usually programs for ssh and telnet preinstalled already (even on the Pandora, I think) and you can do serial port stuff with minicom (available through opkg). --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 07:43, 9 December 2010 (MET)

== Dead projects ==
I looked at the Kolourpaint website and the project appears to be dead. No updates since 2007 and on source forge it says This is currently abandonware. In a case like this what should I do ? There really aren't any close replacements. The best I could find was [http://code.google.com/p/grafx2/ GrafX2] [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 03:14, 27 November 2010 (MET)
:Why does it matter if it's recently updated or not? If it's a working program... I mean, lots of games are now "dead" as in no longer updated - doesn't mean they're bad games. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:44, 27 November 2010 (MET)
Good point. There are no longer updated games so it doesn't make sense to delete an no longer updated app [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 15:44, 27 November 2010 (MET)
==Duplication ==
Stuff that could be removed

keepass-Figaro's Password Manager 2 has been ported

frostwire-we just need a gnutella client so gtk-gnutella is a better fit

glom- libre office has a good database

tuxpaint-mt paint is easy to use

Just making a list as if I removed stuff it might cause an edit war.[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 01:19, 9 December 2010 (MET)

:Thanks. Could you also add your reasons next to each one, for future reference? I've already voiced my disapproval about Ktoon, as it has a different focus than Pencil, and many features that Pencil does not. Tweening is a major one. (another question is whether its resolution is simply too high for the Pandora - a port will probably require major user interface changes, so it may not be suitable for those reasons). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 11:32, 14 December 2010 (MET)

Added reasons [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 21:38, 14 December 2010 (MET)

==Moving "unreleased software" here==
Replying to Maplesugarlover; you asked me: ''On the games,software projects and emulator lists there is alot of "Unreleased" stuff. Could the open source projects be moved to port requests? I'm not sure what to do with the proprietary ones like caster or homebrew ones like Onee-sama Tasukete!''

The "unreleased projects" lists are meant to show games/software on which some progress had already been done by someone, and which might be already being worked on. I think some of them that look like they might have been abandoned (because of lack of progress for a long time) can be ''duplicated'' over here (rather than ''moved''), and there should be a note added on their entries on this page saying that they were already being worked on before. Just so that anyone who wants to pick them up can check with the original developer first, because some of them might still be working on them. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:10, 18 January 2011 (MET)
:Exactly what I was trying to say , so are you going to add stuff or should I do that myself?[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 01:19, 18 January 2011 (MET)
::Well, you seem to be doing a good job in charge of this page, so I'll leave that to you. ;) I mostly stick to adding the port requests that I want ''personally'', or I know someone else specifically asked for. By the way, if you're not sure if a project is still active, you can send a PM to some of the developers and ask if they're still working on it; some of them might reply. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:23, 18 January 2011 (MET)
:ok, I'l try to do it tonight[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 01:25, 18 January 2011 (MET)

==[[Port Requests:Games]]==
Say, what's that page for? Seems to have been created last February... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:03, 21 January 2011 (MET)
: esn , are you admin yet? That page is like an outdated snapshot of port requests. Delete it asap, so we don't have 2 pages for port requests [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 01:15, 21 January 2011 (MET)
::Nope... I would if I could. There are three admins here, though two of them haven't been seen for over a year, and the remaining one (EvilDragon) is too busy to do much. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:58, 21 January 2011 (MET)
[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 21:22, 21 January 2011 (MET) Well, that sucks. When Evildragon is not busy, he should make you an admin : )

:Ok, I redirected the old page to point here, but I also moved over some of the comments from that page to this one (I guess you deleted them at some point in the past, but I think that a lot of them are useful, and they can be hidden anyway so that they don't make the list look ugly). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 21:28, 21 January 2011 (MET)
I'm ok with comments as long as they get hidden if they don't fit in a line [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 21:36, 21 January 2011 (MET)
:Hey, just wondering what is wrong with HideableNotes? Seems to me like a good way of including extra info without cluttering up the list. By the way, lots of comments currently don't fit in a line - if you're using a screen 800 pixels wide. Did you mean 2 lines? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:43, 22 January 2011 (MET)
oops, I'm editing on a 1280 by 800 screen. Never thought to make the pandora wiki readable on the pandora. Sorry and is it that unreadable on the pandora? [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 03:20, 23 January 2011 (MET)

=="Not Possible" Section?==
I think we should have a section on the page (or perhaps an entirely different page) dedicated to software that can NOT run on the Pandora, for various reasons. Maybe they don't use open-source libraries, too hardware intensive, God knows. Of course, the reason would be listed.
-[[User:Blue Protoman]]

:Hi, please remember to sign your comment with 4 tildes next time (instructions at the top of this page). There already is such a page, actually: [[Will X run on the Pandora?]] [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:43, 22 January 2011 (MET)
I was just about to point that out. The wiki could use organization of pages(hard to find something unless you know exactly what it is)[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 20:46, 22 January 2011 (MET)
:Well, the simplest thing would be to link to that page at the introduction to this one. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:48, 22 January 2011 (MET)
I meant that it took me a while to find it because I couldn't remember the title. I remembered Skype was on it so I searched Skype and I found it. I was about to post but I realized you already had [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 20:52, 22 January 2011 (MET)

I'll add a link to the page, then. Thanks for the heads up.-[[User:Blue Protoman]]

== Add columns for GLES, Other Platforms (win,arm,linux) , etc? ==

I think it would be easier to find what to port next if there is a column like this.
:so would that be columns for "dependencies" and another one for "platforms with ports" ? [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 19:46, 15 February 2011 (MET)

== Goals for this page ==

Hi there, I'm currently not sure, what the goal for this page should be.
# Should it attrac coders to work on the listed stuff?
# Should users see what's not running?

But there are problems for this usecases
# For that there is no chronological ordering, no way to add further notes (e.g. current state, whats missing,...)
# For that there is no definite answer if or why not a software is supported, no links to discussion and no remark how this is related to the list on the pandora forums.<br> There is even no clear seperazion to [[Software projects#Unreleased Software]].

From my nearly external view, I would recommend to spread the content on the following pages
* [[Software]] - all software known to work. Games and Apps in 2 Lists
* [[Software requests]] - if people lurking for a port, in chronologic ordering and with working space for the devs
* [[Software wip]] - work in progress
* [[Software unsupported]] - all the software that couldn't be ported for some reasons
--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 17:47, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

I don't understand what you're getting at but the remarks column is for adding notes [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 05:09, 28 April 2011 (MEST)
:Sure but as you see some add hints to the coders, some coders say whats wrong but all in all a coder can't pick a job quickly out of the list? --[[User:ABC|ABC]]

::Okay, Maplesugarlover, coming to the rescue. ;) The goal of this page is #1, bingo. It's for do-able port requests that someone wants that might get picked up by a developer. Sometimes developers come here to get ideas.
::Released software and WIP software are already covered in the three released/WIP software lists: [[software projects]], [[emulator list]] and [[games]] (granted, the WIP list isn't organized in "software projects" as well as I'd like, but that's because I want to do it carefully and haven't had time to work on it yet). The reasons for this system were hashed out in various discussions over the past year mostly between myself, Maplesugarlover, Cheese and Blue Protoman. Basically, there are three articles because those are the three major Pandora software categories which each require a different table structure, and the WIP are listed at the bottom because that makes editing easier for maintainers while having no negative consequences for the reader.
::Chronological ordering is not needed for port requests, and any information can be put into the "notes/remarks" section. I personally think that a coder can pick something very quickly out of the list as it is currently organized. Did you have something specific in mind?
::As for the "improbable" section, that was transferred over by Maplesugarlover from the newbie-oriented [[Will X run on the Pandora?]] article. I was against it when it was done, because of the basic problem of the open-ended mandate - there are countless things that ''won't'' run on the Pandora, so how can you maintain such a thing? It's okay when it's in a simple article meant for newbies that just answers some of their more common questions about whether "Windows" or a "PS2 emulator" will run, but go further than that and I'm not sure what the point is... basically, we were discussing it on [[Talk:Will X run on the Pandora?|the talk page]] and I was waiting for Blue Protoman's opinion, but he seems to be taking a short sabbatical.
::Anyway, I do think that at least the two major sections ("possible" and "improbable") should be separated, so that it's made clear that "improbable" has a different mandate than the rest of the article. I'm going to do that right now, actually, since I think it would help avoid the confusion that you fell victim to. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 09:42, 29 April 2011 (MEST)
:::Ok I see you already spend some time to create the things as it be. Well I suggest to rename the pages as pointed out above. This allows good autocomplete and keeps the articles focused on exactly one topic. Would this be fine to you? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:35, 29 April 2011 (MEST)

Template talk:Languages

2011-04-29T06:50:33Z

ABC: /* Loading time */ lets ues it

==Loading time==
So this takes about a second to load? Probably even longer on the Pandora. I wonder if loading time would be reduced if it didn't search for dozens of languages, but only for those languages which have translations of the Main Page. We're not Wikipedia, after all; we're never going to have a hundred translations, anyway. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:41, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
:Sure but to be honest I'm not that familar with the interaction between the 5 language_* templates. It's not that heavy, it's just indexing the available languages once so the load should be very low if we doesn't alter this template day by day ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:49, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
::Does that depend on cookies? I'm not sure that a lot of people on the Pandora are using browsers that have cookies enables, so if it would take that amount of time to load for every page, every time they went to the wiki... that wouldn't be acceptable. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:44, 29 April 2011 (MEST)
::AFAIK no, but a a wiki on a small mobile screen? Not sure if this is a wise idea. Maybe there is a mobile specific output like for wikiedia [http://mobile.wikipedia.org]?
::Anyway, we should try to work with this template for now, as more and more pages get a translation --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:50, 29 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Port requests

2011-04-28T07:10:40Z

ABC: /* Goals for this page */ not easy for coders

Talk:USB reference

2011-04-27T22:12:44Z

ABC: /* Move Request */ no move

I changed all Mini A, standard USB A etc. mentions into mini-A, standard-A etc. as they appear in the various USB standard documents. I also corrected all instances where plug names etc. were wrong and clarified some things. I spent quite some time in the last few weeks reading the USB docs so I have some confidence that I got most of this crap sorted out... [[User:OrR|OrR]]

== Move Request ==

Hi, this is not a reference in meaning of "all informations or devices related to USB", so to me it seem to be wise to move this to a FAQ, that it is already. What does you say? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:39, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:Why not, but then you need to change the "Pandora as USB slave", ... parts to answers to questions too, like "What can my Pandora do as a Slave?" or something like that. [[User:T4b|T4b]] 13:04, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:I oppose it. This article is well-organized as it is, and the "FAQ" is just one section of it. It makes no sense to fix what isn't broken. "Reference" does NOT mean "all informations or devices"; that is not the correct definition. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:46, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
::Ok so I revoked the move and let the article as it is --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 00:12, 28 April 2011 (MEST)

USB reference

2011-04-27T22:11:55Z

ABC: revoked move req

==Readme First!==

If you have a question to ask, that isn't covered in this FAQ already, please ask over on the [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showforum=61 Forums].

==USB FAQ==

===How many USB ports does Pandora have?===
Pandora has two USB ports:
* 1x USB 2.0 host port (USB standard-A receptacle)
* 1x USB 1.1/2.0 OTG port (USB mini-AB receptacle)

===What does “host port” mean?===
A USB host port “hosts” any device that you plug in, just like the USB ports on your computer. Pandora’s full size USB A port can host USB 2.0 devices (only if they are '''high speed compliant'''!), and provide up to 500mA (the maximum allowed according to USB standards).

===What does “OTG” mean?===
OTG stands for On The Go. USB OTG ports can operate in two different modes. When connected through this port, the Pandora can act as a device, for example when connected to a computer for charging & data transfer. For this mode, you need a standard-A to mini-B cable. However, the Pandora can also act as a host port for USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 devices. For details on how to make the necessary cable connection, see [[USB_reference#OTG_host_mode|the OTG host mode section]]. This port can supply a maximum of 100mA in host mode. Although this port implements On The Go functionality, it can not get an official On The Go certification because the OTG specification requires a device to have exactly one USB port. (The Pandora has two.) Also, the mini-AB connector used on the Pandora has been taken out of the specification in 2007 (but is still widely adopted).

===What’s all this stuff about USB 1.1 and USB 2.0? Isn’t USB, uh, universal?===
USB 1.1 is a subset of the USB 2.0 protocol. Among many other things, the USB 2.0 standard introduced high-speed data transmission, which requires a special controller on the host side. Most USB ports (eg. on your computer’s motherboard, in USB hubs) actually contain '''two chips''' to allow universal compatibility – one that takes care of the Low-Speed (1.0 Mbit/s) and Full-Speed (12 Mbit/s) devices, and another one for the Hi-Speed (480 Mbit/s) devices. The reason is that Low-Speed and Full-Speed are essentially the same protocols operated at different clock frequencies. Hi-Speed is a completely new development and nothing like the other two.

For reasons beyond our control, Pandora’s USB standard-A host port does not contain this second chip. Only USB 2.0 devices bearing the “USB HI-SPEED” logo can be plugged directly into this port. However, USB 1.1 devices can be connected to this port through a USB hub, provided the hub bears the “USB HI-SPEED” logo.

Pandora’s USB OTG (mini-AB) port is fully compatible with both USB 1.1 and USB 2.0, allowing it to host either type of device.

===So which devices are which?===
[[Image:USB-HighSpeed-certified-Logo.png|thumb|alt=USB High Speed Certified logo|Devices bearing this logo are certified High Speed devices. They can be plugged directly into Pandora's USB 2.0 host port.]]
There are no set rules. As a very general guide:
* Common Low-Speed and Full-Speed devices include keyboards, mice, headsets, older USB devices.
* Common Hi-Speed devices include cameras, PMPs, HDDs, hubs, card readers, thumb drives.
This is just a rough representation of what’s out there in the wild, and you will find exceptions. Devices like HSDPA modems and GPS units could fall into either category. The only reliable indication of true Hi-Speed compatibility is the “USB Hi-Speed Certified” logo (right).

===Arrgh, USB used to be simple. What can I actually connect to Pandora?===
Almost anything, as long as it's supported by Linux. Think of a USB device that everybody uses (mouse, keyboard, thumb drive...) and chances are it will be a simple matter of plug and play. But this might not be the case for more specialised USB devices (modems, ethernet adapters, USB displays...), many of which will only function with Windows specific drivers.

If you intend to purchase USB accessories for use with Pandora, you should first research Linux support for that type of device. Devices already tested on Pandora will be added to the [[USB compatibility list]].

The various USB connection scenarios are as follows:

==Pandora as USB slave==
[[Image:Pandora.usb.slave.png|thumb|alt=Pandora as USB slave|Pandora as USB slave]]
Using a USB standard-A to mini-B cable (the kind you probably own several of), you can:
* Transfer data to/from Pandora
* Charge Pandora's battery.

'''Note:'''
* Charging Pandora from your computer's USB port is best done with Pandora in standby mode. The current provided by your computer will probably not be sufficient to provide a quick charge while Pandora is being used.
* There are USB standard-A to mini-B cables that can be used to charge your Pandora but don't work to transfer data to/ from the Pandora! MSWindows will complain abount "An unknown device connected". Try using a different cable.

==Hosting USB devices==
[[Image:Pandora.usb.host.png|thumb|alt=Pandora as a USB host|Pandora as a USB host]]
*Directly plug in a Hi-Speed USB 2.0 device such as a thumb drive, or a Huawei E160 modem.
*Using a USB standard-A to USB standard-B (or mini-B, micro-B, depending on what's on the device) cable, connect Hi-Speed USB 2.0 devices such as cameras, PMPs, and HDDS.
*Connect a USB hub, which will enable you to to connect other non-Hi-Speed USB devices such as keyboards, mice, or a Huawei E220 modem.

'''Note:'''
*This port can supply a maximum of 500mA. If you plan to use a USB HDD, note that very few of these can draw sufficient power from a single USB port. A powered HDD caddy or powered USB hub will be necessary in most cases.

==OTG host mode==
[[Image:Pandora.usb.otg.host.png|thumb|alt=Pandora in OTG host mode|Pandora in OTG host mode]]
How you connect a device to the mini-AB OTG port depends on the device's USB connector.
*standard-B receptacle: Use a mini-A to standard-B cable.
*mini-B receptacle: Use a mini-A to mini-B cable.
*micro-B receptacle: Use a mini-A plug to standard-A receptacle adapter and a standard-A to micro-B cable.
*standard-A plug: Use a mini-A plug to standard-A receptacle adapter.
*mini-A plug: No extra cable or adapter needed.
*micro-A plug: No standardized solution exists.

This port allows you to connect any USB 2.0-compliant device (Hi-Speed, Full-Speed, Low-Speed, including USB 1.1 ones) directly, without the use of a hub.

'''Notes:'''
*mini-A and mini-AB connectors have been removed from the present USB standard. This means that the above connectors may vanish from the market at some point (although there will probably be demand for them for some time). There are a lot of connectors available that were never standardized. It is recommended that you do not use them as they may lead to non-working connections. Stick to the cables and adapters mentioned above and look for a mention of "OTG" or "On The Go" and you should be on the safe side.
*In host mode, this port can supply a maximum of 100mA. USB 1.1 devices that draw more than 100mA will need to connect to Pandora's other USB port via a hub, as depicted in the previous example. The Huawei E220 is one such device.
*If you have trouble connecting any device to the small OTG port, check if 'Setting->Startup->Enable/Disable services on boot->Start USB Network on bootup' is checked! This needs to be set in order to work. Default setting is unchecked (better naming of this option <strike>is planned for Hotfix5</strike> has not been included in HotFix 5, see [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56516-wishlist-for-hf5/]).

'''Host mode connector'''
[[Image:Mini-usb.png|thumb|Mini-B and Mini-A comparison]]
Shown here are a Mini-B connector (left, black) and a Mini-A connector (right, white). The mini-A connector should be the one you want in order to use the OTG port in host mode. Click on the image for a larger version.

With the right connector, it is not necessary to switch the mode of the port[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55396-how-do-you-put-the-usb-otg-port-into-host-mode/], it will be done automatically. It may also be possible to force a mode switch, but this has not been clarified by the devs, and could result in two devices both attempting to power the port (which is not recommended)

==Links==
*[[USB_compatibility_list|Pandora USB compatibility list]]
*[http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_20_122208.zip USB 2.0 Standard (including present OTG spec)]
*[http://www.usb.org/developers/onthego/otg1_0.pdf Original OTG Specification defining mini-A and mini-AB and allowed connections]
*[http://www.usb.org/developers/Deprecation_Announcement_052507.pdf mini-A and mini-AB Deprecation Announcement]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB Wikipedia page on USB]
*[http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?categoryID=79 Retro USB Game Controllers and Ports]

[[Category:USB]]

File:Minimenu Games.png

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ABC:

Talk:Port requests

2011-04-27T15:50:16Z

ABC: /* Goals for this page */ +wip

{{TalkEtiquette}}

Numptyphysics is shown here: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/
Seems to be supported already - Didn't test it yet though

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The last Carrier Instant Messenger SVN change was 2 month ago, do we really need that? Isn't Pidgin enough? We should have some sort of priority system because I have the feeling that some games and apps are just added here to have a bigger list - no matter what quality the entries are. Personally I know a lot of people who use Pidgin, no-one seems to have used Carrier yet. --JayFoxRox
:Well, I use Carrier. It was created because Pidgin had( has) an annoying feature that the developers in charge refused to make optional. They generally keep up with Pidgin versions, although it's one version behind at the moment. As I understand it, this is basically a list of ''portable'' apps that are wanted by at least one person from the Pandora community. It would be problematic making a "priority system". The point, I think, is for the devs to just scroll around and see if there's anything that they'd like to port. I guess one way to make a "priority system" is to have some kind of voting or something... in which case, a developer can choose some apps from here and start a poll on the GP32X forums to see which is most popular. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 09:17, 27 May 2009 (CEST)
:P.S. You can sign your name and date with four tildes at the end of your message ~ ~ ~ ~ (but without spaces). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 09:20, 27 May 2009 (CEST)

Does anyone know why GemRB [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=1356&oldid=1354 was removed]? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:29, 7 June 2009 (CEST)

Just had a poke around, turns out GemRB is now a WIP courtesy of Adventus. ;-) We need to (somehow) encourage people to use the Summary box when making changes! [[User:Gruso|Gruso]] 23:27, 7 June 2009 (CEST)

I added a bunch of stuff to the list, I hope it can be interesting to some people. But it's a pain to order the list alphabetically, any form of automatize the proccess? [[User:Timofonic|Timofonic]] 19:43, 2 January 2010 (MET)
:You could enter everything in willy-nilly and sort by the name column, but that would make it really difficult for ''editors'' to find something, as well as looking messy for anyone who doesn't click on the little square above the column. Best to leave it as is, I think. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 15:13, 5 July 2010 (MEST)

==Why were almost all emulators replaced with MESS?==
[http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=3727&oldid=3722 This edit] seems odd to me. Does MESS really do the best job at emulating ALL of those systems? Won't some emulators run quicker on a system with limited resources such as the Pandora? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:34, 19 September 2010 (MEST)
[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]](sorry for date being off) well some emulators were for systems we already had like nes and such. Then there were obscure Japanese emulators that only ran on windows. Then there was a mainframe emulator.There were also calculator emulators and those are covered by mess. Really mess covers many systems and it could still run faster. There are still things like using the neon to speed up sdl that evildragon hasn't implemented yet.

==Game engines==
I don't get why [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=3961&oldid=3960 they were all deleted]. If they had no right being here, why had they stayed up so long with no objections from anyone?

Maybe you're right, but I'd like to hear what others think. Also, who says that the list is only for "things that can be a PND"? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:09, 3 November 2010 (MET)

Game engine can be put in a PND. GemRB is a game engine allowing to play 4 games and is in a PND... This should stay here IMHO
--[[User:Sebt3|Sebt3]] 01:17, 4 November 2010 (MET)

==Objection==
I'm sorry for removing some of your useful edits with [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=4032&oldid=4030 this], but you keep removing stuff that I object to removing even after I have repeatedly stated my reasons, and providing no justification. Please remember that this is a wiki, not your personal site, and many people have added things here that YOU may not think need to be ported, but that doesn't matter, because THEY do, and if you think you know better than them, you're going to at least have to provide your reasons and convince others that you're right. Otherwise, we're just going to have edit wars and this will get ugly fast. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:56, 4 November 2010 (MET)
[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 15:20, 6 November 2010(date's off)i'll add engines back
:Thank you for adding remarks back, also. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:35, 4 November 2010 (MET)

I undid the Nov. 23 edit because 1) I don't understand why an addressbook is unneeded. 2) KToon has features that Pencil does not, and vice versa. Just because a program is in the same category certainly doesn't mean that it can do all the same things! [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:04, 25 November 2010 (MET)

Also, just in general, you have a tendency of removing programs in the same category if there's another program that you like better. What's the point? Isn't that like saying there's no point of porting Chrome if Firefox is already ported, for example? Everybody has their own preferences. Programs always have some feature differences, and for some people feature X is more important, while for someone else feature Y.

For example, look [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Gnutella_software#Gnutella_features here], and you'll see that Frostwire/LimeWire (which you replaced with gtk-gnutella) actually has more features. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:19, 25 November 2010 (MET)

I removed rubrica as I thought it made more sense to do things on an app by app basis . Like having email contacts in email and im stuff in pidgin and birthdays in a calender rather than having a central app,that does it. I thought on a system like the pandora it made sense to have gtk-gnutella rather than frostwire as frostwire is way slower and do you really need chat in gnutella. Also it does bittorent but we have transmission already. Hey, I'll do what you say. I just wish more stuff got ported.[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 18:24, 25 November 2010 (MET)

Hey, you may be right - I'm just figuring that maybe if someone added something, they had a good idea for wanting it instead of another thing. This would actually be a perfect thing to mention in the "remarks" section; if gtk-gnutella would be faster, say that in the remarks so that it might influence coders who're deciding which one of them to port. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 22:04, 25 November 2010 (MET)

== Remote Administration ==
In this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNfZBUC89Q&feature=youtube_gdata video] Remmina seems to work good. Does PuTTY have some big feature that Remmina doesn't ? could PuTTY be removed? [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 02:35, 26 November 2010 (MET)
:I'm not sure, as I don't use either. I've found a list of features of PuTTY [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PuTTY#Features here] and Remmina [http://remmina.sourceforge.net/features.shtml here]. It seems to have some differences. But again, I don't use either program. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:37, 26 November 2010 (MET)

::PuTTY is for tty connections, like ssh, telnet, serial ports, etc. Remmina seems to be primarily for graphical remote administration. I use PuTTY on Windows, but it's less useful on Linux since there are usually programs for ssh and telnet preinstalled already (even on the Pandora, I think) and you can do serial port stuff with minicom (available through opkg). --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 07:43, 9 December 2010 (MET)

== Dead projects ==
I looked at the Kolourpaint website and the project appears to be dead. No updates since 2007 and on source forge it says This is currently abandonware. In a case like this what should I do ? There really aren't any close replacements. The best I could find was [http://code.google.com/p/grafx2/ GrafX2] [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 03:14, 27 November 2010 (MET)
:Why does it matter if it's recently updated or not? If it's a working program... I mean, lots of games are now "dead" as in no longer updated - doesn't mean they're bad games. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:44, 27 November 2010 (MET)
Good point. There are no longer updated games so it doesn't make sense to delete an no longer updated app [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 15:44, 27 November 2010 (MET)
==Duplication ==
Stuff that could be removed

keepass-Figaro's Password Manager 2 has been ported

frostwire-we just need a gnutella client so gtk-gnutella is a better fit

glom- libre office has a good database

tuxpaint-mt paint is easy to use

Just making a list as if I removed stuff it might cause an edit war.[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 01:19, 9 December 2010 (MET)

:Thanks. Could you also add your reasons next to each one, for future reference? I've already voiced my disapproval about Ktoon, as it has a different focus than Pencil, and many features that Pencil does not. Tweening is a major one. (another question is whether its resolution is simply too high for the Pandora - a port will probably require major user interface changes, so it may not be suitable for those reasons). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 11:32, 14 December 2010 (MET)

Added reasons [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 21:38, 14 December 2010 (MET)

==Moving "unreleased software" here==
Replying to Maplesugarlover; you asked me: ''On the games,software projects and emulator lists there is alot of "Unreleased" stuff. Could the open source projects be moved to port requests? I'm not sure what to do with the proprietary ones like caster or homebrew ones like Onee-sama Tasukete!''

The "unreleased projects" lists are meant to show games/software on which some progress had already been done by someone, and which might be already being worked on. I think some of them that look like they might have been abandoned (because of lack of progress for a long time) can be ''duplicated'' over here (rather than ''moved''), and there should be a note added on their entries on this page saying that they were already being worked on before. Just so that anyone who wants to pick them up can check with the original developer first, because some of them might still be working on them. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:10, 18 January 2011 (MET)
:Exactly what I was trying to say , so are you going to add stuff or should I do that myself?[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 01:19, 18 January 2011 (MET)
::Well, you seem to be doing a good job in charge of this page, so I'll leave that to you. ;) I mostly stick to adding the port requests that I want ''personally'', or I know someone else specifically asked for. By the way, if you're not sure if a project is still active, you can send a PM to some of the developers and ask if they're still working on it; some of them might reply. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:23, 18 January 2011 (MET)
:ok, I'l try to do it tonight[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 01:25, 18 January 2011 (MET)

==[[Port Requests:Games]]==
Say, what's that page for? Seems to have been created last February... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:03, 21 January 2011 (MET)
: esn , are you admin yet? That page is like an outdated snapshot of port requests. Delete it asap, so we don't have 2 pages for port requests [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 01:15, 21 January 2011 (MET)
::Nope... I would if I could. There are three admins here, though two of them haven't been seen for over a year, and the remaining one (EvilDragon) is too busy to do much. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:58, 21 January 2011 (MET)
[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 21:22, 21 January 2011 (MET) Well, that sucks. When Evildragon is not busy, he should make you an admin : )

:Ok, I redirected the old page to point here, but I also moved over some of the comments from that page to this one (I guess you deleted them at some point in the past, but I think that a lot of them are useful, and they can be hidden anyway so that they don't make the list look ugly). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 21:28, 21 January 2011 (MET)
I'm ok with comments as long as they get hidden if they don't fit in a line [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 21:36, 21 January 2011 (MET)
:Hey, just wondering what is wrong with HideableNotes? Seems to me like a good way of including extra info without cluttering up the list. By the way, lots of comments currently don't fit in a line - if you're using a screen 800 pixels wide. Did you mean 2 lines? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:43, 22 January 2011 (MET)
oops, I'm editing on a 1280 by 800 screen. Never thought to make the pandora wiki readable on the pandora. Sorry and is it that unreadable on the pandora? [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 03:20, 23 January 2011 (MET)

=="Not Possible" Section?==
I think we should have a section on the page (or perhaps an entirely different page) dedicated to software that can NOT run on the Pandora, for various reasons. Maybe they don't use open-source libraries, too hardware intensive, God knows. Of course, the reason would be listed.
-[[User:Blue Protoman]]

:Hi, please remember to sign your comment with 4 tildes next time (instructions at the top of this page). There already is such a page, actually: [[Will X run on the Pandora?]] [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:43, 22 January 2011 (MET)
I was just about to point that out. The wiki could use organization of pages(hard to find something unless you know exactly what it is)[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 20:46, 22 January 2011 (MET)
:Well, the simplest thing would be to link to that page at the introduction to this one. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:48, 22 January 2011 (MET)
I meant that it took me a while to find it because I couldn't remember the title. I remembered Skype was on it so I searched Skype and I found it. I was about to post but I realized you already had [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 20:52, 22 January 2011 (MET)

I'll add a link to the page, then. Thanks for the heads up.-[[User:Blue Protoman]]

== Add columns for GLES, Other Platforms (win,arm,linux) , etc? ==

I think it would be easier to find what to port next if there is a column like this.
:so would that be columns for "dependencies" and another one for "platforms with ports" ? [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 19:46, 15 February 2011 (MET)

== Goals for this page ==

Hi there, I'm currently not sure, what the goal for this page should be.
# Should it attrac coders to work on the listed stuff?
# Should users see what's not running?

But there are problems for this usecases
# For that there is no cronologic ordering, no way to add further notes (e.g. current state, whats missing,...)
# For that there is no definite answer if or why not a software is supported, no links to discussion and no remark how this is related to the list on the pandora forums.<br> There is even no clear seperazion to [[Software projects#Unreleased Software]].

From my nearly external view, I would recommend to spread the content on the following pages
* [[Software]] - all software known to work. Games and Apps in 2 Lists
* [[Software requests]] - if people lurking for a port, in chronologic ordering and with working space for the devs
* [[Software wip]] - work in progress
* [[Software unsupported]] - all the software that couldn't be ported for some reasons
--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 17:47, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Port requests

2011-04-27T15:47:30Z

ABC: /* Goals for this page */ new section

{{TalkEtiquette}}

Numptyphysics is shown here: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/
Seems to be supported already - Didn't test it yet though

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The last Carrier Instant Messenger SVN change was 2 month ago, do we really need that? Isn't Pidgin enough? We should have some sort of priority system because I have the feeling that some games and apps are just added here to have a bigger list - no matter what quality the entries are. Personally I know a lot of people who use Pidgin, no-one seems to have used Carrier yet. --JayFoxRox
:Well, I use Carrier. It was created because Pidgin had( has) an annoying feature that the developers in charge refused to make optional. They generally keep up with Pidgin versions, although it's one version behind at the moment. As I understand it, this is basically a list of ''portable'' apps that are wanted by at least one person from the Pandora community. It would be problematic making a "priority system". The point, I think, is for the devs to just scroll around and see if there's anything that they'd like to port. I guess one way to make a "priority system" is to have some kind of voting or something... in which case, a developer can choose some apps from here and start a poll on the GP32X forums to see which is most popular. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 09:17, 27 May 2009 (CEST)
:P.S. You can sign your name and date with four tildes at the end of your message ~ ~ ~ ~ (but without spaces). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 09:20, 27 May 2009 (CEST)

Does anyone know why GemRB [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=1356&oldid=1354 was removed]? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:29, 7 June 2009 (CEST)

Just had a poke around, turns out GemRB is now a WIP courtesy of Adventus. ;-) We need to (somehow) encourage people to use the Summary box when making changes! [[User:Gruso|Gruso]] 23:27, 7 June 2009 (CEST)

I added a bunch of stuff to the list, I hope it can be interesting to some people. But it's a pain to order the list alphabetically, any form of automatize the proccess? [[User:Timofonic|Timofonic]] 19:43, 2 January 2010 (MET)
:You could enter everything in willy-nilly and sort by the name column, but that would make it really difficult for ''editors'' to find something, as well as looking messy for anyone who doesn't click on the little square above the column. Best to leave it as is, I think. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 15:13, 5 July 2010 (MEST)

==Why were almost all emulators replaced with MESS?==
[http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=3727&oldid=3722 This edit] seems odd to me. Does MESS really do the best job at emulating ALL of those systems? Won't some emulators run quicker on a system with limited resources such as the Pandora? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:34, 19 September 2010 (MEST)
[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]](sorry for date being off) well some emulators were for systems we already had like nes and such. Then there were obscure Japanese emulators that only ran on windows. Then there was a mainframe emulator.There were also calculator emulators and those are covered by mess. Really mess covers many systems and it could still run faster. There are still things like using the neon to speed up sdl that evildragon hasn't implemented yet.

==Game engines==
I don't get why [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=3961&oldid=3960 they were all deleted]. If they had no right being here, why had they stayed up so long with no objections from anyone?

Maybe you're right, but I'd like to hear what others think. Also, who says that the list is only for "things that can be a PND"? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:09, 3 November 2010 (MET)

Game engine can be put in a PND. GemRB is a game engine allowing to play 4 games and is in a PND... This should stay here IMHO
--[[User:Sebt3|Sebt3]] 01:17, 4 November 2010 (MET)

==Objection==
I'm sorry for removing some of your useful edits with [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Port_Requests&diff=4032&oldid=4030 this], but you keep removing stuff that I object to removing even after I have repeatedly stated my reasons, and providing no justification. Please remember that this is a wiki, not your personal site, and many people have added things here that YOU may not think need to be ported, but that doesn't matter, because THEY do, and if you think you know better than them, you're going to at least have to provide your reasons and convince others that you're right. Otherwise, we're just going to have edit wars and this will get ugly fast. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:56, 4 November 2010 (MET)
[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 15:20, 6 November 2010(date's off)i'll add engines back
:Thank you for adding remarks back, also. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:35, 4 November 2010 (MET)

I undid the Nov. 23 edit because 1) I don't understand why an addressbook is unneeded. 2) KToon has features that Pencil does not, and vice versa. Just because a program is in the same category certainly doesn't mean that it can do all the same things! [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:04, 25 November 2010 (MET)

Also, just in general, you have a tendency of removing programs in the same category if there's another program that you like better. What's the point? Isn't that like saying there's no point of porting Chrome if Firefox is already ported, for example? Everybody has their own preferences. Programs always have some feature differences, and for some people feature X is more important, while for someone else feature Y.

For example, look [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Gnutella_software#Gnutella_features here], and you'll see that Frostwire/LimeWire (which you replaced with gtk-gnutella) actually has more features. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:19, 25 November 2010 (MET)

I removed rubrica as I thought it made more sense to do things on an app by app basis . Like having email contacts in email and im stuff in pidgin and birthdays in a calender rather than having a central app,that does it. I thought on a system like the pandora it made sense to have gtk-gnutella rather than frostwire as frostwire is way slower and do you really need chat in gnutella. Also it does bittorent but we have transmission already. Hey, I'll do what you say. I just wish more stuff got ported.[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 18:24, 25 November 2010 (MET)

Hey, you may be right - I'm just figuring that maybe if someone added something, they had a good idea for wanting it instead of another thing. This would actually be a perfect thing to mention in the "remarks" section; if gtk-gnutella would be faster, say that in the remarks so that it might influence coders who're deciding which one of them to port. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 22:04, 25 November 2010 (MET)

== Remote Administration ==
In this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNfZBUC89Q&feature=youtube_gdata video] Remmina seems to work good. Does PuTTY have some big feature that Remmina doesn't ? could PuTTY be removed? [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 02:35, 26 November 2010 (MET)
:I'm not sure, as I don't use either. I've found a list of features of PuTTY [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PuTTY#Features here] and Remmina [http://remmina.sourceforge.net/features.shtml here]. It seems to have some differences. But again, I don't use either program. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:37, 26 November 2010 (MET)

::PuTTY is for tty connections, like ssh, telnet, serial ports, etc. Remmina seems to be primarily for graphical remote administration. I use PuTTY on Windows, but it's less useful on Linux since there are usually programs for ssh and telnet preinstalled already (even on the Pandora, I think) and you can do serial port stuff with minicom (available through opkg). --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 07:43, 9 December 2010 (MET)

== Dead projects ==
I looked at the Kolourpaint website and the project appears to be dead. No updates since 2007 and on source forge it says This is currently abandonware. In a case like this what should I do ? There really aren't any close replacements. The best I could find was [http://code.google.com/p/grafx2/ GrafX2] [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 03:14, 27 November 2010 (MET)
:Why does it matter if it's recently updated or not? If it's a working program... I mean, lots of games are now "dead" as in no longer updated - doesn't mean they're bad games. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:44, 27 November 2010 (MET)
Good point. There are no longer updated games so it doesn't make sense to delete an no longer updated app [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 15:44, 27 November 2010 (MET)
==Duplication ==
Stuff that could be removed

keepass-Figaro's Password Manager 2 has been ported

frostwire-we just need a gnutella client so gtk-gnutella is a better fit

glom- libre office has a good database

tuxpaint-mt paint is easy to use

Just making a list as if I removed stuff it might cause an edit war.[[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 01:19, 9 December 2010 (MET)

:Thanks. Could you also add your reasons next to each one, for future reference? I've already voiced my disapproval about Ktoon, as it has a different focus than Pencil, and many features that Pencil does not. Tweening is a major one. (another question is whether its resolution is simply too high for the Pandora - a port will probably require major user interface changes, so it may not be suitable for those reasons). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 11:32, 14 December 2010 (MET)

Added reasons [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 21:38, 14 December 2010 (MET)

==Moving "unreleased software" here==
Replying to Maplesugarlover; you asked me: ''On the games,software projects and emulator lists there is alot of "Unreleased" stuff. Could the open source projects be moved to port requests? I'm not sure what to do with the proprietary ones like caster or homebrew ones like Onee-sama Tasukete!''

The "unreleased projects" lists are meant to show games/software on which some progress had already been done by someone, and which might be already being worked on. I think some of them that look like they might have been abandoned (because of lack of progress for a long time) can be ''duplicated'' over here (rather than ''moved''), and there should be a note added on their entries on this page saying that they were already being worked on before. Just so that anyone who wants to pick them up can check with the original developer first, because some of them might still be working on them. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:10, 18 January 2011 (MET)
:Exactly what I was trying to say , so are you going to add stuff or should I do that myself?[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 01:19, 18 January 2011 (MET)
::Well, you seem to be doing a good job in charge of this page, so I'll leave that to you. ;) I mostly stick to adding the port requests that I want ''personally'', or I know someone else specifically asked for. By the way, if you're not sure if a project is still active, you can send a PM to some of the developers and ask if they're still working on it; some of them might reply. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:23, 18 January 2011 (MET)
:ok, I'l try to do it tonight[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 01:25, 18 January 2011 (MET)

==[[Port Requests:Games]]==
Say, what's that page for? Seems to have been created last February... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:03, 21 January 2011 (MET)
: esn , are you admin yet? That page is like an outdated snapshot of port requests. Delete it asap, so we don't have 2 pages for port requests [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 01:15, 21 January 2011 (MET)
::Nope... I would if I could. There are three admins here, though two of them haven't been seen for over a year, and the remaining one (EvilDragon) is too busy to do much. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:58, 21 January 2011 (MET)
[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 21:22, 21 January 2011 (MET) Well, that sucks. When Evildragon is not busy, he should make you an admin : )

:Ok, I redirected the old page to point here, but I also moved over some of the comments from that page to this one (I guess you deleted them at some point in the past, but I think that a lot of them are useful, and they can be hidden anyway so that they don't make the list look ugly). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 21:28, 21 January 2011 (MET)
I'm ok with comments as long as they get hidden if they don't fit in a line [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 21:36, 21 January 2011 (MET)
:Hey, just wondering what is wrong with HideableNotes? Seems to me like a good way of including extra info without cluttering up the list. By the way, lots of comments currently don't fit in a line - if you're using a screen 800 pixels wide. Did you mean 2 lines? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:43, 22 January 2011 (MET)
oops, I'm editing on a 1280 by 800 screen. Never thought to make the pandora wiki readable on the pandora. Sorry and is it that unreadable on the pandora? [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 03:20, 23 January 2011 (MET)

=="Not Possible" Section?==
I think we should have a section on the page (or perhaps an entirely different page) dedicated to software that can NOT run on the Pandora, for various reasons. Maybe they don't use open-source libraries, too hardware intensive, God knows. Of course, the reason would be listed.
-[[User:Blue Protoman]]

:Hi, please remember to sign your comment with 4 tildes next time (instructions at the top of this page). There already is such a page, actually: [[Will X run on the Pandora?]] [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:43, 22 January 2011 (MET)
I was just about to point that out. The wiki could use organization of pages(hard to find something unless you know exactly what it is)[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 20:46, 22 January 2011 (MET)
:Well, the simplest thing would be to link to that page at the introduction to this one. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:48, 22 January 2011 (MET)
I meant that it took me a while to find it because I couldn't remember the title. I remembered Skype was on it so I searched Skype and I found it. I was about to post but I realized you already had [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 20:52, 22 January 2011 (MET)

I'll add a link to the page, then. Thanks for the heads up.-[[User:Blue Protoman]]

== Add columns for GLES, Other Platforms (win,arm,linux) , etc? ==

I think it would be easier to find what to port next if there is a column like this.
:so would that be columns for "dependencies" and another one for "platforms with ports" ? [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 19:46, 15 February 2011 (MET)

== Goals for this page ==

Hi there, I'm currently not sure, what the goal for this page should be.
# Should it attrac coders to work on the listed stuff?
# Should users see what's not running?

But there are problems for this usecases
# For that there is no cronologic ordering, no way to add further notes (e.g. current state, whats missing,...)
# For that there is no definite answer if or why not a software is supported, no links to discussion and no remark how this is related to the list on the pandora forums.<br> There is even no clear seperazion to [[Software projects#Unreleased Software]].

From my nearly external view, I would recommend to spread the content on the following pages
* [[Software]] - all software known to work. Games and Apps in 2 Lists
* [[Software requests]] - if people lurking for a port, in chronologic ordering and with working space for the devs
* [[Software unsupported]] - all the software that couldn't be ported for some reasons
--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 17:47, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Introduction to PNDs

2011-04-27T09:39:36Z

ABC: /* Merge with PND:FAQ */ please merge

==I want to override the .PND icon, name, or other settings, how is this done?==
This section mentions changing the clock speed, but [[Overclocking]] seems to cover the current method. I'm not sure... --[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 01:24, 25 February 2011 (MET)

== Merge with PND:FAQ ==

Hi,
this article is pretty much like a FAQ. What about outsourcing this questions and strip it back to a very basic "a PND is XYZ and you use it like XYZ..."? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:14, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
I like to keep the topic PND straight forward due to it's massive relevance. So we should use [[PND]] as an general introduction, [[PND FAQ]] as a general FAQ style and of course [[libPND]] for introducing in development with [[PXML]] --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 11:39, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Emulator compatibility

2011-04-27T09:36:59Z

ABC: please merge or del

==Merge or delete==
Hi, I don't see any use on this page. We should keep the emulators pages straight forward, so [[Emulators]] for a general article and [[Emulator list]] for a list of software that emulates other systems, only? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 11:36, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Community links

2011-04-27T09:33:08Z

ABC: /* This page and InfoIndex */ merged

First the german Fansites, Press Coverages and so on.

== This page and InfoIndex ==

Is it really worth it to have two pages for what seems to be about the same purpose? --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 02:17, 12 July 2010 (MEST)
:I think you're right. If you like, more discussion about this on the [[Talk:InfoIndex|InfoIndex talk page]]. The main problem really is that nobody really cares about the upkeep of these two pages. I suggest we follow the lead of Middo's "Pandora Bookmark" website. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:15, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:What about splitting into lists [[forums]], [[blogs]], [[file archives]], [[portals]] that explain a bit the priority of the links, too? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:34, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::I think we should try to keep the links on one page first, then split it up if it gets too long (though honestly, there aren't ''that'' many of them). Also, let's keep discussion on the InfoIndex talk page, just so that it's not split up... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:40, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::Sounds good, I merged bot pages --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 11:33, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

Team

2011-04-27T09:28:42Z

ABC: outsourced from InformationIndex

== Hardware / Business Developers ==

* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=116 Craigix]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=205 EvilDragon]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=6611 mfk]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=9395 MWeston]

== Software Developers ==

* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=13278 Cpasjuste]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=1026 DJWillis]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=6546 Firefox]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=5419 Notaz]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=8773 Ryo]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=246 Skeezix]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=1681 Squidge]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=14946 Svartalf]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=7607 Tinnus]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=1544 Vimacs]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=17215 Wesbrown18]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=6438 Zodttd]

== Forum Mods ==

* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=901 Chip]
* [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_posts&mid=84 Tobriand]

[[Category:Community]]

File:Pandora logo small.png

2011-04-27T09:12:26Z

ABC:

Talk:Software projects

2011-04-27T08:55:40Z

ABC: /* Minimenu skins */ yes outsource!

{{TalkEtiquette}}

I think the games should be split into ports and original games. Of course, this might sometimes be hard to decide, for example with Wizzley Presto, which is a new original game but could also be called a port from the iPhone version... [[User:OrR|OrR]]

I think that's a good idea. But I got stuck on that same blurred line while planning a blog feature for homebrew games. Wizzley Presto is one, also GP2X games like Pool Panic and Battle Jewels. For my purposes (being to showcase our scene's own work) I decided that these games should fall under originals, because (i) it's all talent from within our scene, and (ii) the original authors are doing the porting. I don't know if we can apply such subjective rules to wiki categories though. [[User:Gruso|Gruso]]

How about 3 categories:
*ports of classic games
*ports from other platforms
*original Pandora games
[[User:OrR|OrR]]
:Then I propose not splitting the list, but simply adding another column onto the end and marking each game "classic", "original", etc.. That way, if anyone wants to, he can "sort" the table into the correct categories.

:On an unrelated note, I can't seem to figure out where to put GemRB. It doesn't seem to be a "game" as such, but a game engine port. But should it go into "emulators" along with ScummVM? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:17, 10 June 2009 (CEST)

== "Where in world is... " ==

There is an entry under Games named "Where in world is... " which just links back to a Polish blog and doesn't appear to be a real game/application. Can anyone confirm this is a genuine entry? [[User:Enverex|Enverex]] 23:30, 8 August 2009 (MEST)

I am pretty sure "Wandor" and "warioland-inspired game" are the same--[[User:Kuru|Kuru]] 12:02, 6 March 2010 (MET)

== Stuff that should be removed from "Other programs"==

I don't see any reason to list the programs that are already included with the Pandora or those already in the Angstrom repo. I guess that list hasn't been updated since after the pandora started shipping. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 04:28, 23 June 2010 (MEST)

Agree - this page should be for holding info on active developments, as a reference for when someone is looking for a program for a certain function. I like the move of games/emus to independant pages. Might be worth using the 'category' feature to tie together all individual dev/released project pages as they grow too. --[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 12:51, 23 June 2010 (MEST)

== Combining released and in development stuff. ==

This page was great before the pandora was out, but now that it is I don't think it makes sense to look in two different places for what's released and what's in development. That's why I have moved the in development games and emulator lists to their own pages (those pages include released games and emulators). Now when something goes from in development to released, it's a simple matter of moving the game up to the released list rather than to another page.
--[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 05:10, 23 June 2010 (MEST)
:I agree, and I think it's time to do the same thing for this page as well. I'm working on it. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:56, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
:Ok, it's done. I started a thread on the forums [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55047-pandora-wiki-list-of-everything-except-games-emulators/ over here] for discussion, though of course someone could say something over here as well. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:14, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
== Angstrom Linux OS ==
Arn't we using a moddifed version of that? Why would that be uncomplete?
:Because the list was out of date, I just removed it --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 23:07, 8 July 2010 (MEST)

==Minimenu skins==
I think this (http://pandorawiki.org/Software_projects#Skins) should be either moved to an entirely different page (like a page for minimenu, which could be used for other stuff, too - like tracking beta versions) or at least below the Operating systems category, does not really make sense to mention the skins before mentioning the actual program they are used with. Also I feel like skins don't really fall into the category of "software" so I would favour the first approach. [[User:Foxblock|Foxblock]] 15:43, 16 April 2011 (MEST)
:Full ack, I would suggest to put it on [[Minimenu skins]], any cons? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:55, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

== Switch to a template ==

Hi, I created a template that creates the same table [[User:ABC/playground]] but has some pros (in my oppinion):
* easy to edit, cause people see what they change esp. if not familar with wiki table syntax
* could be crawled by bots later
* seperates content from it's representation
* alter/extend representation at any time without any troubles
Would it be ok for you if I change all tables in that kind? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:29, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:This actually seems ''harder'' to edit to me, because you have to copy+paste a template every single time, instead of being just adding a line. Seems a lot more cumbersome. I don't understand the last two points, could you explain those a bit more? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:06, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
::Sure, as said this template encapsules the information of a single software. It's up to us, to change the viusalisation of this information completely just by changing the single template e.g to switch to a more complex design, that depends on the entered values, to change column order etc... . In past a lot of people liked it, when the tables grow more and more see [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maps] or even distribute it using a bot [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Desktop]. But again this is just a suggestion and I would be willing to do the work --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:37, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

Template talk:Languages

2011-04-27T08:49:56Z

ABC: /* Loading time */ only on changing this template

Talk:Old Main Page

2011-04-27T08:46:02Z

ABC: /* Updating Mediawiki */ flag template tuning

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== Dutch translation ==

@ Orkie: Seeing as The Netherlands has a [http://www.gpark.nl GP2X community] too (and (although) indirectly, Pandora), it might be useful to add a link to it. I'm even willing to do (some) Dutch translations for the Wiki. ;) --[[User:SharQueDo|SharQueDo]] 11:57, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
: Sure, I'll do it when I get chance. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

== Finnish translation ==

I would like to do a finnish translation of the page, I just need you guys to link the main page to http://pandorawiki.org/Fi:Main_page and create the finlands flag symbol.
: Great, same as above. I'll dig out a flag icon and set up a new category later today. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

: I think I will have time to start the translation project in Sunday and I will be working on it for some time. For starters I will be translating about pandora and Faq, but I will also add thinks that finnish people always ask me to faq. I plan to update as the english version updates and add stuff in the user category, in the developer category I will just put links to the english versions because you just have to know english to do that stuff. (besides, I don't think that I'm the right person to translate developer stuff) [[User:Gaeryc|Gaeryc]] 21:45, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
==Icelandic translation ==
i have translated the Main Page in to icelandic

http://pandorawiki.org/Is:Main_Page
--[[User:Andri12|Andri12]] 06:58, 20 April 2008 (CEST)

== Czech translation ==

Can you add Czech translation link http://pandorawiki.org/Cz:Main_page please? I'd like to make some translations to Czech language. Thanks.
: Sure, sorry it has taken a few days to get around to it. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 19:47, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

== Spanish Translation ==

Anybody working on this?<br />
If not, what dialect should it be in? (I can only do some of the Latin American dialects, not much of any Spain/Castillian) You may consider having two namespaces: one for the European dialect (''Es:'') and one for Latin American dialect (''La:'') <br />
[[User:Nat1192|Nat1192]] 02:11, 1 October 2008 (CEST)

== German translation ==
Hey, I would like to do a german translation of this page. First i will link to the english articles. <br />
[[User:Shorty Meeks|Shorty Meeks]] 16:58, 7 December 2008 (CEST)

== French translation ==
There was already a basic French page. I'm slowly updating it and a bunch of other pages. [[User:KodeIn|KodeIn]] 21:38, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Allow editing==
Please allow all established users to edit this page. The requests are completely backlogged, and the front page is getting more and more outdated. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:24, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
:Thank you for updating it, EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 12:13, 15 July 2010 (MEST)
::Just a thought... we could make templates for the different sections to this page (About Pandora, links, user links, dev links) and then have this page use those templates. That would mean any logged in user could edit it, which ''is'' slightly dangerous for reasons of spam but does make it so it can be edited by everyone, they just couldn't get at the layout of the page. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 09:11, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
:::Or just add a couple of users as explicit editors. The template suggestion seems OK, since anyone could revert spam, but we don't have 24/7 coverage of recent changes.--[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 12:19, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
::::I agree that would be the best choice, but ED is the only active admin and I don't think he's familiar enough administering a wiki or he would have done it already, that or he's too busy. I've gone ahead with the template idea and sent him an updated main page, it should be up within a day or two. Hopefully the spammers won't realize they can now access part of the main page and start spamming like crazy. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 07:37, 21 July 2010 (MEST)

==Will X Run on the Pandora?==

We have an article with this name. http://pandorawiki.org/Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora%3F It really SHOULD be added to the main page, under Users. It's begging to be used more often! I've already put it on the Port Requests page.

[[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 22:49, 22 January 2011 (MET)BlueProtoman

:The main page uses templates to bring in the links, so we don't need admins to update it. See (or edit): [[Template:MainPageUsersLinks]]. Feel free to add it there if no one objects to it. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 04:00, 23 January 2011 (MET)

::Wow... I had no idea. Thanks a bunch, Cheese. The [[Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora?]] article is quite rough at the moment though, so I don't know... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:45, 23 January 2011 (MET)
::Oh, I see that someone cleaned it up a bit so that it doesn't overlap with the software list articles. That was a good idea. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:48, 23 January 2011 (MET)

That was me. Also, I didn't know it ran off a template. If that's the case, I'll add the page now. Thanks. [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 15:20, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Move Hardware hacking from Users to Developers ?==

That's said--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:14, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:It has nothing to do with developers, though... i.e. I had to do some so-called "hardware hacking" as a user because my stylus was stuck when I got my unit. Also, DaveC is known for hardware hacking but is certainly not a developer. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:05, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::Ok, so the french main page has to be changed--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:40, 27 February 2011 (MET)

== Wiki Translation tips ==

Anyone ?--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:41, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:What's your question? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:06, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::I don't know how to proceed efficiently... Read a lot of wikis but never edited seriously :/--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:39, 27 February 2011 (MET)
:::Maybe have several tabs open, one with the original page, one with the translated page that you're creating, one with Google Translate? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:19, 17 March 2011 (MET)

== What happened to the logo? ==

Title. The logo's missing in favor of a placeholder, and I don't know why. Anyone care to explain? [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 14:58, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:ED updated to the latest MediaWiki and changed the captcha to something more complex at my request, to get rid of the constant spam problems that we've had the past few weeks. It seems to have worked, but the logo seems to have gotten lost in the process. He's understandably quite busy, but I hope that eventually he'll find some time to put it back in (I'd do it, but I suspect I don't have access to that part of the site - though I'm not entirely sure). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:17, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:Instructions for setting a logo image are [http://kb.siteground.com/article/How_to_change_my_MediaWiki_logo_image.html here]. I don't think I have access to LocalSettings.php, though. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:24, 17 March 2011 (MET)
::It's nice to see that we're running the newest version now, I didn't realize ED had access to the server. Yep, you need write access to the files on the server to change the logo URL, there's no way to set it from the admin interface. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 23:29, 17 March 2011 (MET)

==Houston, we have a problem!==
"Upload file" on the wiki no longer works. When I try, I get a message saying "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver." I've notified ED about this. I hope he checks his PMs from time to time. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:26, 25 March 2011 (MET)
:By the way, this is now fixed. And we have a logo again. :) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:14, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

==Second Problem==
Translation disappears !!! --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:58, 6 April 2011 (MEST)
:What? Where? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:47, 7 April 2011 (MEST)
::Clicked on the french page to edit this and there like when i have time
http://pandorawiki.org/Fr:Main_Page gives Fr:Main Page
There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page.

Clicking on some other flags gave the same answer :/ --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 21:21, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
:Bizarre. I'll have to ask EvilDragon about this... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 21:36, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
::I also have to add that every contribution to the french page has been removed from my history... weird --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 13:01, 9 April 2011 (MEST)
:::[[:Category:Emulator_Compatibility|these pages]] have disappeared as well. I'm ''certain'' that they were there before the latest update, but now they're gone along with the edit histories. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::So do we have to start over again TT ? --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:51, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Let's give ED a while to see if he can figure out what went wrong, first... it's possible that he might be able to recover those pages. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:42, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
: I would suggest to use the [[:template:languages]] that adds a list of translations on top of the page. Due to a bug it doesn't hiddes all remaining languages, but this will work if we fix the wiki config --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 00:11, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::For my proposal about what the "languages" template should look like, please see the "Updating Mediawiki" thread below this one. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

== Right to change the mainpage ==

Hi Orkie,

I would like to help to clean up the wiki and therefore outsource templates, reorder mainpage etc. Might you grant me the right to do so, please?

:Orkie is no longer around, ABC. Neither is Chip. The only admins active now are myself and EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:20, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:You're free to improve the wiki of course, but please add a discussion topic in the relevant talk page before you decide to start on any radical changes that may be controversial and difficult to undo. This is better for all sides, because if you go in too rashly, you risk having all your work undone if someone heavily disagrees with what you propose. So if you have anything radical in mind, it might be better to start a "fork" page first (like [[Games (fork)|this one]]), then if nobody objects it can be brought over to the main article.

:By the way, what do you mean about "outsourcing templates"? And what specifically on the main page don't you like? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:12, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Sorry was my fault, you already use templates so I could just do some little reordering. I would like to remove the language flags, I try to get [[:template:languages]] working instead, which is checking if the pages have translations or not.
:I understand your point of view, concerning critical edits. Currently I just do refactoring and reformatting so nothing that affects the content or structure to heavy. I guess a discussion would be necessary before renaming some of the pages.--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

== Updating Mediawiki ==

Hi, are there any concerns on updating this instance to a more recent version? I'm always confused to have the searchbar at the left side without outocomplete and SVG is currently unsupported :/ --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 18:22, 19 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I personally think the new look of Wikipedia is pretty ugly and inefficient, so I'm a fan of keeping the cosmetics as they are. ;) EvilDragon actually updated to the latest MediaWiki just recently to combat a spam problem that we had. It might've messed up a few other things, though (see discussion in the above topics). The SVG thing isn't that great, if true (I've never tried uploading an SVG file). Do you actually need SVG for something specific? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:08, 20 April 2011 (MEST)
::Yes thats a big UI step, I see. But for me it's not that nice to switch between different styles. Anyway thats not that important :)
:: Yes SVG will allow everybody to upload and update schemes, diagrams etc. that would be static otherwise. It prevents to use a lot of material of the Creative Commons database that could be used using interwiki links. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Ok template:langues worksbut it lacks the collapsing feature. This is done by [[:template:hidden]] but I guess it seem to lack a few CSS definitions? Check it out at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden wikipedia] --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

::Please tell me what you're trying to do, as I don't really understand it. You're recently copied over a number of language-related templates from Wikipedia: [[Template:LanguageExistingEn]], [[Template:LanguageLink]], [[Template:LanguageExisting]], [[Template:Languages]]. Are you trying to have the links to different languages be on the left column of the page, as is the case in Wikipedia? If so, it doesn't seem to be working. What you've done [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=FAQ&oldid=7714 here] is rather ugly. Please do any ''experiments'' on a ''test'' page rather than a functioning page that's in use. And no way are we EVER going to have more than a few languages, anyway, so it makes no sense to me to have so many redlinks... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:31, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::You are right, it would be better if I used a testpage only and not a productive one :/ Well yes I try to get a top menu working, that adapts to the language a page is translated for. For example [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Presse]. The redlinks will disappear if the CSS/JS is extended and SVG is fixed. I guess the files were interwiki by wikicommons, if not i will add them, of course. Sorry if my action sometimes look a bit hectic, I promise to be more patient :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Okay, thanks for explaining. I would prefer to handle different languages like they are on Wikipedia (as a sidebar) - although if that's not possible (or too much work), that language template is an acceptable alternative. If we end up using the language template, I think it should be present not on every single page, but only on the ones that are translated into at least one other language. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:44, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Sure, that handling is up to us. But see, this would make it very easy to others to create translations. But I'm not a big fan of internationalization (for that a small community) due to the outdating of pages. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::To be honest, I think those little flags that are currently on the main page look much nicer than the language template does in the link that you provided. If we end up using a top-of-the-page template for other languages, I'd rather have the flags than the language names. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:29, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Again, if the templates are in use, it's up to us to change their representation layer [[:Template:Languages/Interface]]. But yes flags seem to save space and look a bit sexier :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Just trying to picture it here, I think the best option would be to have the links to different languages be on the right side of the page, like an infobox. So it might say "Translations of this page:" and then a few flags. That seems like a nice, clean way to do it. I think that's better than putting it over the ''entire'' top, because this way it doesn't hinder people who start reading from the top of the article. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 10:05, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Not sure if that is a good argument as a lot of wikis I saw use a very similar template. Anyway if it works right we can change the design. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::Well, [http://i.imgur.com/gGeqg.gif here's a mockup] of what I'm proposing. It's pretty similar to what those other wikis use; I just think it looks less ugly. The "add a translation" link could go to an instruction page that says: "if you want to add a translation, find the two-letter code of your language, and make a page with that code in front of it". Or maybe instead of "add a translation", it could say "missing languages" as it does on the example you linked.
:::::::Anyway... so how is that template supposed to automatically recognize which pages are translated? Does it look for whether there's a page with the same title with a two-letter language code in front of it? But some pages will have different titles in different languages - I'm not sure how you could get around adding the languages in manually. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:58, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::[http://i.imgur.com/YSWJ6.png Here's my second mockup]. And once you click on "show missing languages", it will look like [http://i.imgur.com/et5at.png this]. To be listed, a "missing language" must have a translation of the main page of this wiki. That seems like a good compromise to avoid listing hundreds of languages... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:38, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::They look awesome, but to be honest, I would expect this choice on the top of the page :/ With this nitty flags it doesn't consume to much space. The other great thing of the hidden languages is that you can add a translation to a page easily, that is missed in your mockups, right? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:31, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::::"that is missed in your mockups, right?" - nope, check out the second proposal. It's structured the same as the one you linked to, but with flags instead of language names and on the right side of the page instead of right at the top. I think it is better to have it on the right side so as not to distract most readers by being right at the top. Most readers will not be looking for other languages but to start reading the article. Also, if you look on various websites that are multilingual, the little flags to change languages are usually in the right-hand corner of the page, so this will be familiar. With the flags, as you said, it will take up very little horizontal space, so there is no reason to have it take up more space than is needed. Taking up ALL of the top horizontal space only makes sense if you're going to write out each language name in text, because that would take up too much ''vertical'' space if you kept it to the upper right. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 15:25, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:BTW I checked out, that you can change the skin already now to Vector, that is the new Mediawiki user interface everywhere. Douch, guess I should read the manual first ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:00, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

ABC, I was wondering if you could give me a tip about [[Template:LanguageLink]]. Do you know how I would make it so that the two-letter language code would generate not the name of the language, but a certain flag? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:27, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
:Over at OSM weuse this template [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Countryflag] but this uses interwiki commons graphics that are SVG again :/ You might adapt it to your flags here, of course. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:46, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

== Goals of this wiki ==

Hi there, just a simple questions before I start any harder refactoring or contributing to this wiki. What are the main goals for this platform? What usecases do you spot on? How established is it within the pandora community?

Maybe we should make an IRC session focused on further plans on the wiki? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:54, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I would prefer to keep such discussions in a place with a permanent record of what is posted. Also because many of the contributors contribute every so often, and I'd rather leave the discussion open to more eyes than have an intense IRC discussion of just a few people. If you'd like a wider discussion, you could start a topic in the GP32X Pandora general section... or we could keep it here and accept that it may not move as quickly as you'd like.
:Now then, as for the goals: This wiki started out <s>two</s> three years ago largely because the Pandora team didn't have the time or the resources to put together a comprehensive user manual for the Pandora, so they decided to outsource the task to the community. Well, that actually happened a bit later, but it was a major project, anyway. These days, the wiki generally acts as a place where Pandora owners write down important things for reference. The sorts of things that would have gotten lost with the passage of time on the forums. The main activity happens on the forums, and the wiki is like the "long-term memory" of the community. Hence, the [[tutorials]], the various tips and tricks that you see in different articles, hardware documentation, bug reports, and software lists. This is all here so that important things don't get forgotten just because they were done a long time ago. A lot of devs use it for the same reason, as a place to have an organized reference of the things they're working on. So in large part, the wiki is like a collection of what once would have been spread out on different sites - most articles were created mainly by one person.
:My main task in bringing the disparate elements together into a structure I see like this: to make sure that all related articles are linked to each other, via wikilinks or categories. But I don't try to interfere in stylistic decisions much. A lot of it is "not my business", frankly, especially the dev articles. ;) If I, personally as a Pandora owner, care about the organization of a particular article, I'll make a case for changing it in the talk page, or do the changes right away if I'm pretty sure that they'll be uncontroversial. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:03, 26 April 2011 (MEST)

== News bar? ==

Hi, what do you think about adding a newslist to the mainpage collecting all informations of the different forums and listing the official announcements? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:34, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I don't really see the need for official announcements - we have the [http://stalker.openpandora.org/ Pandora Stalker] and PandoraPress for that. Who decides what is "official"? As for "community news", those are already collected on the three software lists. One can subscribe to the RSS feed of those articles and thereby keep abreast of the latest events - or simply check them once in a while and sort by date to see what you missed. As I said above, I think the wiki is more like the long-term-memory of the community; the reference library rather than the TV channel. It's hard work to keep it up-to-date as it is. Are you volunteering to keep the news up-to-date if we add a news bar? The development of the wiki rests largely on who's willing to do the developing. ;) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:31, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
::Well updating is not the problem but to get the news. I'm not very excited about the currently very distributed communication infrastructure and so I think it might be a good chance to collect them at a single point so newbies doesn't have to checkout a lot of portals or semi official blogs...--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:32, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:::So the question remains, who's going to keep it updated? If news is never updated, it is not news. So... what exactly are you proposing? Transcluding several RSS feeds from other sources? Perhaps using [http://www.rssmix.com/ RSSmix] to combine the most important places where news is posted? For example, the software projects edit history, PandoraPress, the Official blog, some Youtube channels? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:22, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
:::Yes but by a human filter/merger. The most Blogs publish the same informations that are mostly just the official news. So what about exchanging news between the boards that get filtered by priority? Well ok, I guess we pause the discussion here and see if the wiki might get more popular, then we can return on thinking on high frequency news ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:42, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

== Merging with german wiki ==

Hi, sorry for putting that much topics on your todo list, but I like to ask even here if you would give the [http://wiki.openpandora.de german wiki users] a warm welcome? AFAIK there is currently only one maintainer left, but their wiki is quite good organized and has some really interesting aspects (e.g. icons for buttons,...). To me it sounds wise to first cleanup our own articles and then merge both wikis and use this process to update all the articles --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 23:17, 25 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Old Main Page

2011-04-27T08:42:24Z

ABC: /* News bar? */ you might be right, lets pause

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== Dutch translation ==

@ Orkie: Seeing as The Netherlands has a [http://www.gpark.nl GP2X community] too (and (although) indirectly, Pandora), it might be useful to add a link to it. I'm even willing to do (some) Dutch translations for the Wiki. ;) --[[User:SharQueDo|SharQueDo]] 11:57, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
: Sure, I'll do it when I get chance. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

== Finnish translation ==

I would like to do a finnish translation of the page, I just need you guys to link the main page to http://pandorawiki.org/Fi:Main_page and create the finlands flag symbol.
: Great, same as above. I'll dig out a flag icon and set up a new category later today. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

: I think I will have time to start the translation project in Sunday and I will be working on it for some time. For starters I will be translating about pandora and Faq, but I will also add thinks that finnish people always ask me to faq. I plan to update as the english version updates and add stuff in the user category, in the developer category I will just put links to the english versions because you just have to know english to do that stuff. (besides, I don't think that I'm the right person to translate developer stuff) [[User:Gaeryc|Gaeryc]] 21:45, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
==Icelandic translation ==
i have translated the Main Page in to icelandic

http://pandorawiki.org/Is:Main_Page
--[[User:Andri12|Andri12]] 06:58, 20 April 2008 (CEST)

== Czech translation ==

Can you add Czech translation link http://pandorawiki.org/Cz:Main_page please? I'd like to make some translations to Czech language. Thanks.
: Sure, sorry it has taken a few days to get around to it. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 19:47, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

== Spanish Translation ==

Anybody working on this?<br />
If not, what dialect should it be in? (I can only do some of the Latin American dialects, not much of any Spain/Castillian) You may consider having two namespaces: one for the European dialect (''Es:'') and one for Latin American dialect (''La:'') <br />
[[User:Nat1192|Nat1192]] 02:11, 1 October 2008 (CEST)

== German translation ==
Hey, I would like to do a german translation of this page. First i will link to the english articles. <br />
[[User:Shorty Meeks|Shorty Meeks]] 16:58, 7 December 2008 (CEST)

== French translation ==
There was already a basic French page. I'm slowly updating it and a bunch of other pages. [[User:KodeIn|KodeIn]] 21:38, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Allow editing==
Please allow all established users to edit this page. The requests are completely backlogged, and the front page is getting more and more outdated. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:24, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
:Thank you for updating it, EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 12:13, 15 July 2010 (MEST)
::Just a thought... we could make templates for the different sections to this page (About Pandora, links, user links, dev links) and then have this page use those templates. That would mean any logged in user could edit it, which ''is'' slightly dangerous for reasons of spam but does make it so it can be edited by everyone, they just couldn't get at the layout of the page. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 09:11, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
:::Or just add a couple of users as explicit editors. The template suggestion seems OK, since anyone could revert spam, but we don't have 24/7 coverage of recent changes.--[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 12:19, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
::::I agree that would be the best choice, but ED is the only active admin and I don't think he's familiar enough administering a wiki or he would have done it already, that or he's too busy. I've gone ahead with the template idea and sent him an updated main page, it should be up within a day or two. Hopefully the spammers won't realize they can now access part of the main page and start spamming like crazy. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 07:37, 21 July 2010 (MEST)

==Will X Run on the Pandora?==

We have an article with this name. http://pandorawiki.org/Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora%3F It really SHOULD be added to the main page, under Users. It's begging to be used more often! I've already put it on the Port Requests page.

[[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 22:49, 22 January 2011 (MET)BlueProtoman

:The main page uses templates to bring in the links, so we don't need admins to update it. See (or edit): [[Template:MainPageUsersLinks]]. Feel free to add it there if no one objects to it. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 04:00, 23 January 2011 (MET)

::Wow... I had no idea. Thanks a bunch, Cheese. The [[Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora?]] article is quite rough at the moment though, so I don't know... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:45, 23 January 2011 (MET)
::Oh, I see that someone cleaned it up a bit so that it doesn't overlap with the software list articles. That was a good idea. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:48, 23 January 2011 (MET)

That was me. Also, I didn't know it ran off a template. If that's the case, I'll add the page now. Thanks. [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 15:20, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Move Hardware hacking from Users to Developers ?==

That's said--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:14, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:It has nothing to do with developers, though... i.e. I had to do some so-called "hardware hacking" as a user because my stylus was stuck when I got my unit. Also, DaveC is known for hardware hacking but is certainly not a developer. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:05, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::Ok, so the french main page has to be changed--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:40, 27 February 2011 (MET)

== Wiki Translation tips ==

Anyone ?--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:41, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:What's your question? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:06, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::I don't know how to proceed efficiently... Read a lot of wikis but never edited seriously :/--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:39, 27 February 2011 (MET)
:::Maybe have several tabs open, one with the original page, one with the translated page that you're creating, one with Google Translate? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:19, 17 March 2011 (MET)

== What happened to the logo? ==

Title. The logo's missing in favor of a placeholder, and I don't know why. Anyone care to explain? [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 14:58, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:ED updated to the latest MediaWiki and changed the captcha to something more complex at my request, to get rid of the constant spam problems that we've had the past few weeks. It seems to have worked, but the logo seems to have gotten lost in the process. He's understandably quite busy, but I hope that eventually he'll find some time to put it back in (I'd do it, but I suspect I don't have access to that part of the site - though I'm not entirely sure). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:17, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:Instructions for setting a logo image are [http://kb.siteground.com/article/How_to_change_my_MediaWiki_logo_image.html here]. I don't think I have access to LocalSettings.php, though. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:24, 17 March 2011 (MET)
::It's nice to see that we're running the newest version now, I didn't realize ED had access to the server. Yep, you need write access to the files on the server to change the logo URL, there's no way to set it from the admin interface. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 23:29, 17 March 2011 (MET)

==Houston, we have a problem!==
"Upload file" on the wiki no longer works. When I try, I get a message saying "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver." I've notified ED about this. I hope he checks his PMs from time to time. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:26, 25 March 2011 (MET)
:By the way, this is now fixed. And we have a logo again. :) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:14, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

==Second Problem==
Translation disappears !!! --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:58, 6 April 2011 (MEST)
:What? Where? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:47, 7 April 2011 (MEST)
::Clicked on the french page to edit this and there like when i have time
http://pandorawiki.org/Fr:Main_Page gives Fr:Main Page
There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page.

Clicking on some other flags gave the same answer :/ --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 21:21, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
:Bizarre. I'll have to ask EvilDragon about this... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 21:36, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
::I also have to add that every contribution to the french page has been removed from my history... weird --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 13:01, 9 April 2011 (MEST)
:::[[:Category:Emulator_Compatibility|these pages]] have disappeared as well. I'm ''certain'' that they were there before the latest update, but now they're gone along with the edit histories. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::So do we have to start over again TT ? --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:51, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Let's give ED a while to see if he can figure out what went wrong, first... it's possible that he might be able to recover those pages. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:42, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
: I would suggest to use the [[:template:languages]] that adds a list of translations on top of the page. Due to a bug it doesn't hiddes all remaining languages, but this will work if we fix the wiki config --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 00:11, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::For my proposal about what the "languages" template should look like, please see the "Updating Mediawiki" thread below this one. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

== Right to change the mainpage ==

Hi Orkie,

I would like to help to clean up the wiki and therefore outsource templates, reorder mainpage etc. Might you grant me the right to do so, please?

:Orkie is no longer around, ABC. Neither is Chip. The only admins active now are myself and EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:20, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:You're free to improve the wiki of course, but please add a discussion topic in the relevant talk page before you decide to start on any radical changes that may be controversial and difficult to undo. This is better for all sides, because if you go in too rashly, you risk having all your work undone if someone heavily disagrees with what you propose. So if you have anything radical in mind, it might be better to start a "fork" page first (like [[Games (fork)|this one]]), then if nobody objects it can be brought over to the main article.

:By the way, what do you mean about "outsourcing templates"? And what specifically on the main page don't you like? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:12, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Sorry was my fault, you already use templates so I could just do some little reordering. I would like to remove the language flags, I try to get [[:template:languages]] working instead, which is checking if the pages have translations or not.
:I understand your point of view, concerning critical edits. Currently I just do refactoring and reformatting so nothing that affects the content or structure to heavy. I guess a discussion would be necessary before renaming some of the pages.--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

== Updating Mediawiki ==

Hi, are there any concerns on updating this instance to a more recent version? I'm always confused to have the searchbar at the left side without outocomplete and SVG is currently unsupported :/ --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 18:22, 19 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I personally think the new look of Wikipedia is pretty ugly and inefficient, so I'm a fan of keeping the cosmetics as they are. ;) EvilDragon actually updated to the latest MediaWiki just recently to combat a spam problem that we had. It might've messed up a few other things, though (see discussion in the above topics). The SVG thing isn't that great, if true (I've never tried uploading an SVG file). Do you actually need SVG for something specific? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:08, 20 April 2011 (MEST)
::Yes thats a big UI step, I see. But for me it's not that nice to switch between different styles. Anyway thats not that important :)
:: Yes SVG will allow everybody to upload and update schemes, diagrams etc. that would be static otherwise. It prevents to use a lot of material of the Creative Commons database that could be used using interwiki links. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Ok template:langues worksbut it lacks the collapsing feature. This is done by [[:template:hidden]] but I guess it seem to lack a few CSS definitions? Check it out at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden wikipedia] --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

::Please tell me what you're trying to do, as I don't really understand it. You're recently copied over a number of language-related templates from Wikipedia: [[Template:LanguageExistingEn]], [[Template:LanguageLink]], [[Template:LanguageExisting]], [[Template:Languages]]. Are you trying to have the links to different languages be on the left column of the page, as is the case in Wikipedia? If so, it doesn't seem to be working. What you've done [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=FAQ&oldid=7714 here] is rather ugly. Please do any ''experiments'' on a ''test'' page rather than a functioning page that's in use. And no way are we EVER going to have more than a few languages, anyway, so it makes no sense to me to have so many redlinks... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:31, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::You are right, it would be better if I used a testpage only and not a productive one :/ Well yes I try to get a top menu working, that adapts to the language a page is translated for. For example [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Presse]. The redlinks will disappear if the CSS/JS is extended and SVG is fixed. I guess the files were interwiki by wikicommons, if not i will add them, of course. Sorry if my action sometimes look a bit hectic, I promise to be more patient :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Okay, thanks for explaining. I would prefer to handle different languages like they are on Wikipedia (as a sidebar) - although if that's not possible (or too much work), that language template is an acceptable alternative. If we end up using the language template, I think it should be present not on every single page, but only on the ones that are translated into at least one other language. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:44, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Sure, that handling is up to us. But see, this would make it very easy to others to create translations. But I'm not a big fan of internationalization (for that a small community) due to the outdating of pages. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::To be honest, I think those little flags that are currently on the main page look much nicer than the language template does in the link that you provided. If we end up using a top-of-the-page template for other languages, I'd rather have the flags than the language names. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:29, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Again, if the templates are in use, it's up to us to change their representation layer [[:Template:Languages/Interface]]. But yes flags seem to save space and look a bit sexier :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Just trying to picture it here, I think the best option would be to have the links to different languages be on the right side of the page, like an infobox. So it might say "Translations of this page:" and then a few flags. That seems like a nice, clean way to do it. I think that's better than putting it over the ''entire'' top, because this way it doesn't hinder people who start reading from the top of the article. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 10:05, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Not sure if that is a good argument as a lot of wikis I saw use a very similar template. Anyway if it works right we can change the design. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::Well, [http://i.imgur.com/gGeqg.gif here's a mockup] of what I'm proposing. It's pretty similar to what those other wikis use; I just think it looks less ugly. The "add a translation" link could go to an instruction page that says: "if you want to add a translation, find the two-letter code of your language, and make a page with that code in front of it". Or maybe instead of "add a translation", it could say "missing languages" as it does on the example you linked.
:::::::Anyway... so how is that template supposed to automatically recognize which pages are translated? Does it look for whether there's a page with the same title with a two-letter language code in front of it? But some pages will have different titles in different languages - I'm not sure how you could get around adding the languages in manually. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:58, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::[http://i.imgur.com/YSWJ6.png Here's my second mockup]. And once you click on "show missing languages", it will look like [http://i.imgur.com/et5at.png this]. To be listed, a "missing language" must have a translation of the main page of this wiki. That seems like a good compromise to avoid listing hundreds of languages... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:38, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::They look awesome, but to be honest, I would expect this choice on the top of the page :/ With this nitty flags it doesn't consume to much space. The other great thing of the hidden languages is that you can add a translation to a page easily, that is missed in your mockups, right? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:31, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::::"that is missed in your mockups, right?" - nope, check out the second proposal. It's structured the same as the one you linked to, but with flags instead of language names and on the right side of the page instead of right at the top. I think it is better to have it on the right side so as not to distract most readers by being right at the top. Most readers will not be looking for other languages but to start reading the article. Also, if you look on various websites that are multilingual, the little flags to change languages are usually in the right-hand corner of the page, so this will be familiar. With the flags, as you said, it will take up very little horizontal space, so there is no reason to have it take up more space than is needed. Taking up ALL of the top horizontal space only makes sense if you're going to write out each language name in text, because that would take up too much ''vertical'' space if you kept it to the upper right. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 15:25, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:BTW I checked out, that you can change the skin already now to Vector, that is the new Mediawiki user interface everywhere. Douch, guess I should read the manual first ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:00, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

ABC, I was wondering if you could give me a tip about [[Template:LanguageLink]]. Do you know how I would make it so that the two-letter language code would generate not the name of the language, but a certain flag? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:27, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

== Goals of this wiki ==

Hi there, just a simple questions before I start any harder refactoring or contributing to this wiki. What are the main goals for this platform? What usecases do you spot on? How established is it within the pandora community?

Maybe we should make an IRC session focused on further plans on the wiki? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:54, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I would prefer to keep such discussions in a place with a permanent record of what is posted. Also because many of the contributors contribute every so often, and I'd rather leave the discussion open to more eyes than have an intense IRC discussion of just a few people. If you'd like a wider discussion, you could start a topic in the GP32X Pandora general section... or we could keep it here and accept that it may not move as quickly as you'd like.
:Now then, as for the goals: This wiki started out <s>two</s> three years ago largely because the Pandora team didn't have the time or the resources to put together a comprehensive user manual for the Pandora, so they decided to outsource the task to the community. Well, that actually happened a bit later, but it was a major project, anyway. These days, the wiki generally acts as a place where Pandora owners write down important things for reference. The sorts of things that would have gotten lost with the passage of time on the forums. The main activity happens on the forums, and the wiki is like the "long-term memory" of the community. Hence, the [[tutorials]], the various tips and tricks that you see in different articles, hardware documentation, bug reports, and software lists. This is all here so that important things don't get forgotten just because they were done a long time ago. A lot of devs use it for the same reason, as a place to have an organized reference of the things they're working on. So in large part, the wiki is like a collection of what once would have been spread out on different sites - most articles were created mainly by one person.
:My main task in bringing the disparate elements together into a structure I see like this: to make sure that all related articles are linked to each other, via wikilinks or categories. But I don't try to interfere in stylistic decisions much. A lot of it is "not my business", frankly, especially the dev articles. ;) If I, personally as a Pandora owner, care about the organization of a particular article, I'll make a case for changing it in the talk page, or do the changes right away if I'm pretty sure that they'll be uncontroversial. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:03, 26 April 2011 (MEST)

== News bar? ==

Hi, what do you think about adding a newslist to the mainpage collecting all informations of the different forums and listing the official announcements? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:34, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I don't really see the need for official announcements - we have the [http://stalker.openpandora.org/ Pandora Stalker] and PandoraPress for that. Who decides what is "official"? As for "community news", those are already collected on the three software lists. One can subscribe to the RSS feed of those articles and thereby keep abreast of the latest events - or simply check them once in a while and sort by date to see what you missed. As I said above, I think the wiki is more like the long-term-memory of the community; the reference library rather than the TV channel. It's hard work to keep it up-to-date as it is. Are you volunteering to keep the news up-to-date if we add a news bar? The development of the wiki rests largely on who's willing to do the developing. ;) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:31, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
::Well updating is not the problem but to get the news. I'm not very excited about the currently very distributed communication infrastructure and so I think it might be a good chance to collect them at a single point so newbies doesn't have to checkout a lot of portals or semi official blogs...--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:32, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:::So the question remains, who's going to keep it updated? If news is never updated, it is not news. So... what exactly are you proposing? Transcluding several RSS feeds from other sources? Perhaps using [http://www.rssmix.com/ RSSmix] to combine the most important places where news is posted? For example, the software projects edit history, PandoraPress, the Official blog, some Youtube channels? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:22, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
:::Yes but by a human filter/merger. The most Blogs publish the same informations that are mostly just the official news. So what about exchanging news between the boards that get filtered by priority? Well ok, I guess we pause the discussion here and see if the wiki might get more popular, then we can return on thinking on high frequency news ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:42, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

== Merging with german wiki ==

Hi, sorry for putting that much topics on your todo list, but I like to ask even here if you would give the [http://wiki.openpandora.de german wiki users] a warm welcome? AFAIK there is currently only one maintainer left, but their wiki is quite good organized and has some really interesting aspects (e.g. icons for buttons,...). To me it sounds wise to first cleanup our own articles and then merge both wikis and use this process to update all the articles --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 23:17, 25 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Software projects

2011-04-27T08:37:22Z

ABC: /* Switch to a template */ easier to change design

{{TalkEtiquette}}

I think the games should be split into ports and original games. Of course, this might sometimes be hard to decide, for example with Wizzley Presto, which is a new original game but could also be called a port from the iPhone version... [[User:OrR|OrR]]

I think that's a good idea. But I got stuck on that same blurred line while planning a blog feature for homebrew games. Wizzley Presto is one, also GP2X games like Pool Panic and Battle Jewels. For my purposes (being to showcase our scene's own work) I decided that these games should fall under originals, because (i) it's all talent from within our scene, and (ii) the original authors are doing the porting. I don't know if we can apply such subjective rules to wiki categories though. [[User:Gruso|Gruso]]

How about 3 categories:
*ports of classic games
*ports from other platforms
*original Pandora games
[[User:OrR|OrR]]
:Then I propose not splitting the list, but simply adding another column onto the end and marking each game "classic", "original", etc.. That way, if anyone wants to, he can "sort" the table into the correct categories.

:On an unrelated note, I can't seem to figure out where to put GemRB. It doesn't seem to be a "game" as such, but a game engine port. But should it go into "emulators" along with ScummVM? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:17, 10 June 2009 (CEST)

== "Where in world is... " ==

There is an entry under Games named "Where in world is... " which just links back to a Polish blog and doesn't appear to be a real game/application. Can anyone confirm this is a genuine entry? [[User:Enverex|Enverex]] 23:30, 8 August 2009 (MEST)

I am pretty sure "Wandor" and "warioland-inspired game" are the same--[[User:Kuru|Kuru]] 12:02, 6 March 2010 (MET)

== Stuff that should be removed from "Other programs"==

I don't see any reason to list the programs that are already included with the Pandora or those already in the Angstrom repo. I guess that list hasn't been updated since after the pandora started shipping. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 04:28, 23 June 2010 (MEST)

Agree - this page should be for holding info on active developments, as a reference for when someone is looking for a program for a certain function. I like the move of games/emus to independant pages. Might be worth using the 'category' feature to tie together all individual dev/released project pages as they grow too. --[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 12:51, 23 June 2010 (MEST)

== Combining released and in development stuff. ==

This page was great before the pandora was out, but now that it is I don't think it makes sense to look in two different places for what's released and what's in development. That's why I have moved the in development games and emulator lists to their own pages (those pages include released games and emulators). Now when something goes from in development to released, it's a simple matter of moving the game up to the released list rather than to another page.
--[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 05:10, 23 June 2010 (MEST)
:I agree, and I think it's time to do the same thing for this page as well. I'm working on it. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:56, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
:Ok, it's done. I started a thread on the forums [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55047-pandora-wiki-list-of-everything-except-games-emulators/ over here] for discussion, though of course someone could say something over here as well. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:14, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
== Angstrom Linux OS ==
Arn't we using a moddifed version of that? Why would that be uncomplete?
:Because the list was out of date, I just removed it --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 23:07, 8 July 2010 (MEST)

==Minimenu skins==
I think this (http://pandorawiki.org/Software_projects#Skins) should be either moved to an entirely different page (like a page for minimenu, which could be used for other stuff, too - like tracking beta versions) or at least below the Operating systems category, does not really make sense to mention the skins before mentioning the actual program they are used with. Also I feel like skins don't really fall into the category of "software" so I would favour the first approach. [[User:Foxblock|Foxblock]] 15:43, 16 April 2011 (MEST)

== Switch to a template ==

Hi, I created a template that creates the same table [[User:ABC/playground]] but has some pros (in my oppinion):
* easy to edit, cause people see what they change esp. if not familar with wiki table syntax
* could be crawled by bots later
* seperates content from it's representation
* alter/extend representation at any time without any troubles
Would it be ok for you if I change all tables in that kind? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:29, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:This actually seems ''harder'' to edit to me, because you have to copy+paste a template every single time, instead of being just adding a line. Seems a lot more cumbersome. I don't understand the last two points, could you explain those a bit more? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 03:06, 27 April 2011 (MEST)
::Sure, as said this template encapsules the information of a single software. It's up to us, to change the viusalisation of this information completely just by changing the single template e.g to switch to a more complex design, that depends on the entered values, to change column order etc... . In past a lot of people liked it, when the tables grow more and more see [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maps] or even distribute it using a bot [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Desktop]. But again this is just a suggestion and I would be willing to do the work --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 10:37, 27 April 2011 (MEST)

User talk:Esn

2011-04-26T21:46:19Z

ABC: /* CSS+JS Extensions for Template:Languages */ new section

==Packaging==
Packaging is the fact of creating a package. :)
Normally this imply a limited amont of work. But there is a team "upstram" that continue to work on it and where bug can be reported (or I can be a "bridge")

Porting mean a lot of work (at least in my head).
What does Pickle is usually porting, things like :
- translating GL to GLES
- hard work on resolution (change textures + a lot of code)
- optimizing for arm
- etc
Usually those who have ported will also fix the bugs (as they are largely involved in the code).
Chance that the "upstream" code to be merged later is small (That's why we have mame4all and mame106. The later is a port from a newer release). So in some way it's a fork. (Tuxrace is a clear fork of extreme tuxracer)

I hope that clarify all. -- [[User:Sebt3|Sebt3]], 02:54, 1 November 2010

== unreleased software ==
On the games,software projects and emulator lists there is alot of "Unreleased" stuff. Could the open source projects be moved to port requests? I'm not sure what to do with the proprietary ones like caster or homebrew ones like Onee-sama Tasukete! [[User:Maplesugarlover|Maplesugarlover]] 15:01, 17 January 2011 (MET)
:I replied [[Talk:Port_requests#Moving_.22unreleased_software.22_here|over here]], because it's relevant to that page, so best to keep the discussion there probably... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:12, 18 January 2011 (MET)
Ironically , I didn't add any port requests, but I did update all 3 lists[[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 03:05, 18 January 2011 (MET)
==Missed releases==
I was looking through the pandora developer's corner for pandora on gp32x and I found some stuff you missed

[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/54091-codeblocks-on-the-pandora/ Code:blocks]

[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55363-groove/ groove]

You are welcome [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 21:07, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==will x run on the pandora ?==
blue protoman removed port requests that are on will x run on the pandora ? Just thought you should know. Also , I went on a deleting spree [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 18:14, 5 February 2011 (MET)
:Ok, thanks for letting me know. Seems okay... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:50, 7 February 2011 (MET)

== cool ideas ==

what if there was a new page called cool ideas. put things like the repo spec, new pnd format, tinxl and http://pandorawiki.org/Easy_pnd_maker there. It might also make sense to put it on the main page [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 04:02, 15 February 2011 (MET)
:never mind we have[[Proposals]] and [[cool ideas]]
though you could add them to front page [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 22:04, 17 February 2011 (MET)

== timidity ==

there is an timidity installer pnd , but timidity is on [[port requests]]. Could timidity be removed from [[port requests]] ? [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 17:20, 20 February 2011 (MET)
:I think so, yes. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:06, 21 February 2011 (MET)
I removed TiMidity [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 01:07, 21 February 2011 (MET)

== CSS+JS Extensions for Template:Languages ==

Hi Esn,

did you already tried to adapt the CSS and JS as we talked about at [[User_talk:ABC]]? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 23:46, 26 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:InfoIndex

2011-04-26T17:35:06Z

ABC: /* "Merge" discussion */ split up list for blogs, archives,...

Hmm... this is all looking quite out of date too. More of the important forum stuff ought to be on the wiki now, but I can see this being a good link pool for 'read all these first if you want to get up to speed'
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=="Merge" discussion==
I don't think it should be merged with [[community links]] because many of the links here are ''official''. Rather, perhaps that other page should be merged with this one. To be honest, the links on this page are a lot more useful than the links on that one.

But some can be salvaged. For example "videos" should probably link not so much to individual videos, as to Youtube channels which have Pandora videos.

Maybe use Middo's [http://www.fillsites.com.au/pandora/index.html Pandora Bookmark] website as a template. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:13, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:Looks good, we could introduce a little 'offical pandora' icon? To me it would be wise to manage linklists here in the wiki, as everybody can update them and it's a central place for linking from all the distributed forums etc. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:37, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:What about collecting the sites in a distributed way like [[blogs]], [[portals]], [[pnd archives]],...? If we need all on a central page, we could use projection to condense all of this stuff together. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:35, 26 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Old Main Page

2011-04-26T17:32:18Z

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== Dutch translation ==

@ Orkie: Seeing as The Netherlands has a [http://www.gpark.nl GP2X community] too (and (although) indirectly, Pandora), it might be useful to add a link to it. I'm even willing to do (some) Dutch translations for the Wiki. ;) --[[User:SharQueDo|SharQueDo]] 11:57, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
: Sure, I'll do it when I get chance. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

== Finnish translation ==

I would like to do a finnish translation of the page, I just need you guys to link the main page to http://pandorawiki.org/Fi:Main_page and create the finlands flag symbol.
: Great, same as above. I'll dig out a flag icon and set up a new category later today. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 20:23, 17 April 2008 (CEST)

: I think I will have time to start the translation project in Sunday and I will be working on it for some time. For starters I will be translating about pandora and Faq, but I will also add thinks that finnish people always ask me to faq. I plan to update as the english version updates and add stuff in the user category, in the developer category I will just put links to the english versions because you just have to know english to do that stuff. (besides, I don't think that I'm the right person to translate developer stuff) [[User:Gaeryc|Gaeryc]] 21:45, 17 April 2008 (CEST)
==Icelandic translation ==
i have translated the Main Page in to icelandic

http://pandorawiki.org/Is:Main_Page
--[[User:Andri12|Andri12]] 06:58, 20 April 2008 (CEST)

== Czech translation ==

Can you add Czech translation link http://pandorawiki.org/Cz:Main_page please? I'd like to make some translations to Czech language. Thanks.
: Sure, sorry it has taken a few days to get around to it. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 19:47, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

== Spanish Translation ==

Anybody working on this?<br />
If not, what dialect should it be in? (I can only do some of the Latin American dialects, not much of any Spain/Castillian) You may consider having two namespaces: one for the European dialect (''Es:'') and one for Latin American dialect (''La:'') <br />
[[User:Nat1192|Nat1192]] 02:11, 1 October 2008 (CEST)

== German translation ==
Hey, I would like to do a german translation of this page. First i will link to the english articles. <br />
[[User:Shorty Meeks|Shorty Meeks]] 16:58, 7 December 2008 (CEST)

== French translation ==
There was already a basic French page. I'm slowly updating it and a bunch of other pages. [[User:KodeIn|KodeIn]] 21:38, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Allow editing==
Please allow all established users to edit this page. The requests are completely backlogged, and the front page is getting more and more outdated. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:24, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
:Thank you for updating it, EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 12:13, 15 July 2010 (MEST)
::Just a thought... we could make templates for the different sections to this page (About Pandora, links, user links, dev links) and then have this page use those templates. That would mean any logged in user could edit it, which ''is'' slightly dangerous for reasons of spam but does make it so it can be edited by everyone, they just couldn't get at the layout of the page. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 09:11, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
:::Or just add a couple of users as explicit editors. The template suggestion seems OK, since anyone could revert spam, but we don't have 24/7 coverage of recent changes.--[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 12:19, 20 July 2010 (MEST)
::::I agree that would be the best choice, but ED is the only active admin and I don't think he's familiar enough administering a wiki or he would have done it already, that or he's too busy. I've gone ahead with the template idea and sent him an updated main page, it should be up within a day or two. Hopefully the spammers won't realize they can now access part of the main page and start spamming like crazy. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 07:37, 21 July 2010 (MEST)

==Will X Run on the Pandora?==

We have an article with this name. http://pandorawiki.org/Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora%3F It really SHOULD be added to the main page, under Users. It's begging to be used more often! I've already put it on the Port Requests page.

[[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 22:49, 22 January 2011 (MET)BlueProtoman

:The main page uses templates to bring in the links, so we don't need admins to update it. See (or edit): [[Template:MainPageUsersLinks]]. Feel free to add it there if no one objects to it. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 04:00, 23 January 2011 (MET)

::Wow... I had no idea. Thanks a bunch, Cheese. The [[Will_X_run_on_the_Pandora?]] article is quite rough at the moment though, so I don't know... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:45, 23 January 2011 (MET)
::Oh, I see that someone cleaned it up a bit so that it doesn't overlap with the software list articles. That was a good idea. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:48, 23 January 2011 (MET)

That was me. Also, I didn't know it ran off a template. If that's the case, I'll add the page now. Thanks. [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 15:20, 23 January 2011 (MET)

==Move Hardware hacking from Users to Developers ?==

That's said--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:14, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:It has nothing to do with developers, though... i.e. I had to do some so-called "hardware hacking" as a user because my stylus was stuck when I got my unit. Also, DaveC is known for hardware hacking but is certainly not a developer. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:05, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::Ok, so the french main page has to be changed--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:40, 27 February 2011 (MET)

== Wiki Translation tips ==

Anyone ?--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 19:41, 16 February 2011 (MET)
:What's your question? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:06, 20 February 2011 (MET)
::I don't know how to proceed efficiently... Read a lot of wikis but never edited seriously :/--[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 00:39, 27 February 2011 (MET)
:::Maybe have several tabs open, one with the original page, one with the translated page that you're creating, one with Google Translate? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:19, 17 March 2011 (MET)

== What happened to the logo? ==

Title. The logo's missing in favor of a placeholder, and I don't know why. Anyone care to explain? [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 14:58, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:ED updated to the latest MediaWiki and changed the captcha to something more complex at my request, to get rid of the constant spam problems that we've had the past few weeks. It seems to have worked, but the logo seems to have gotten lost in the process. He's understandably quite busy, but I hope that eventually he'll find some time to put it back in (I'd do it, but I suspect I don't have access to that part of the site - though I'm not entirely sure). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:17, 17 March 2011 (MET)
:Instructions for setting a logo image are [http://kb.siteground.com/article/How_to_change_my_MediaWiki_logo_image.html here]. I don't think I have access to LocalSettings.php, though. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 23:24, 17 March 2011 (MET)
::It's nice to see that we're running the newest version now, I didn't realize ED had access to the server. Yep, you need write access to the files on the server to change the logo URL, there's no way to set it from the admin interface. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 23:29, 17 March 2011 (MET)

==Houston, we have a problem!==
"Upload file" on the wiki no longer works. When I try, I get a message saying "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver." I've notified ED about this. I hope he checks his PMs from time to time. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:26, 25 March 2011 (MET)
:By the way, this is now fixed. And we have a logo again. :) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:14, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

==Second Problem==
Translation disappears !!! --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:58, 6 April 2011 (MEST)
:What? Where? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:47, 7 April 2011 (MEST)
::Clicked on the french page to edit this and there like when i have time
http://pandorawiki.org/Fr:Main_Page gives Fr:Main Page
There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page.

Clicking on some other flags gave the same answer :/ --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 21:21, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
:Bizarre. I'll have to ask EvilDragon about this... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 21:36, 8 April 2011 (MEST)
::I also have to add that every contribution to the french page has been removed from my history... weird --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 13:01, 9 April 2011 (MEST)
:::[[:Category:Emulator_Compatibility|these pages]] have disappeared as well. I'm ''certain'' that they were there before the latest update, but now they're gone along with the edit histories. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::So do we have to start over again TT ? --[[User:Linux-SWAT|Linux-SWAT]] 22:51, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Let's give ED a while to see if he can figure out what went wrong, first... it's possible that he might be able to recover those pages. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:42, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
: I would suggest to use the [[:template:languages]] that adds a list of translations on top of the page. Due to a bug it doesn't hiddes all remaining languages, but this will work if we fix the wiki config --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 00:11, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::For my proposal about what the "languages" template should look like, please see the "Updating Mediawiki" thread below this one. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

== Right to change the mainpage ==

Hi Orkie,

I would like to help to clean up the wiki and therefore outsource templates, reorder mainpage etc. Might you grant me the right to do so, please?

:Orkie is no longer around, ABC. Neither is Chip. The only admins active now are myself and EvilDragon. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:20, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:You're free to improve the wiki of course, but please add a discussion topic in the relevant talk page before you decide to start on any radical changes that may be controversial and difficult to undo. This is better for all sides, because if you go in too rashly, you risk having all your work undone if someone heavily disagrees with what you propose. So if you have anything radical in mind, it might be better to start a "fork" page first (like [[Games (fork)|this one]]), then if nobody objects it can be brought over to the main article.

:By the way, what do you mean about "outsourcing templates"? And what specifically on the main page don't you like? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:12, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Sorry was my fault, you already use templates so I could just do some little reordering. I would like to remove the language flags, I try to get [[:template:languages]] working instead, which is checking if the pages have translations or not.
:I understand your point of view, concerning critical edits. Currently I just do refactoring and reformatting so nothing that affects the content or structure to heavy. I guess a discussion would be necessary before renaming some of the pages.--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

== Updating Mediawiki ==

Hi, are there any concerns on updating this instance to a more recent version? I'm always confused to have the searchbar at the left side without outocomplete and SVG is currently unsupported :/ --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 18:22, 19 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I personally think the new look of Wikipedia is pretty ugly and inefficient, so I'm a fan of keeping the cosmetics as they are. ;) EvilDragon actually updated to the latest MediaWiki just recently to combat a spam problem that we had. It might've messed up a few other things, though (see discussion in the above topics). The SVG thing isn't that great, if true (I've never tried uploading an SVG file). Do you actually need SVG for something specific? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:08, 20 April 2011 (MEST)
::Yes thats a big UI step, I see. But for me it's not that nice to switch between different styles. Anyway thats not that important :)
:: Yes SVG will allow everybody to upload and update schemes, diagrams etc. that would be static otherwise. It prevents to use a lot of material of the Creative Commons database that could be used using interwiki links. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 09:37, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

:Ok template:langues worksbut it lacks the collapsing feature. This is done by [[:template:hidden]] but I guess it seem to lack a few CSS definitions? Check it out at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden wikipedia] --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:39, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

::Please tell me what you're trying to do, as I don't really understand it. You're recently copied over a number of language-related templates from Wikipedia: [[Template:LanguageExistingEn]], [[Template:LanguageLink]], [[Template:LanguageExisting]], [[Template:Languages]]. Are you trying to have the links to different languages be on the left column of the page, as is the case in Wikipedia? If so, it doesn't seem to be working. What you've done [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=FAQ&oldid=7714 here] is rather ugly. Please do any ''experiments'' on a ''test'' page rather than a functioning page that's in use. And no way are we EVER going to have more than a few languages, anyway, so it makes no sense to me to have so many redlinks... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:31, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::You are right, it would be better if I used a testpage only and not a productive one :/ Well yes I try to get a top menu working, that adapts to the language a page is translated for. For example [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Presse]. The redlinks will disappear if the CSS/JS is extended and SVG is fixed. I guess the files were interwiki by wikicommons, if not i will add them, of course. Sorry if my action sometimes look a bit hectic, I promise to be more patient :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::Okay, thanks for explaining. I would prefer to handle different languages like they are on Wikipedia (as a sidebar) - although if that's not possible (or too much work), that language template is an acceptable alternative. If we end up using the language template, I think it should be present not on every single page, but only on the ones that are translated into at least one other language. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:44, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Sure, that handling is up to us. But see, this would make it very easy to others to create translations. But I'm not a big fan of internationalization (for that a small community) due to the outdating of pages. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::To be honest, I think those little flags that are currently on the main page look much nicer than the language template does in the link that you provided. If we end up using a top-of-the-page template for other languages, I'd rather have the flags than the language names. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:29, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Again, if the templates are in use, it's up to us to change their representation layer [[:Template:Languages/Interface]]. But yes flags seem to save space and look a bit sexier :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:45, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Just trying to picture it here, I think the best option would be to have the links to different languages be on the right side of the page, like an infobox. So it might say "Translations of this page:" and then a few flags. That seems like a nice, clean way to do it. I think that's better than putting it over the ''entire'' top, because this way it doesn't hinder people who start reading from the top of the article. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 10:05, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Not sure if that is a good argument as a lot of wikis I saw use a very similar template. Anyway if it works right we can change the design. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:32, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::Well, [http://i.imgur.com/gGeqg.gif here's a mockup] of what I'm proposing. It's pretty similar to what those other wikis use; I just think it looks less ugly. The "add a translation" link could go to an instruction page that says: "if you want to add a translation, find the two-letter code of your language, and make a page with that code in front of it". Or maybe instead of "add a translation", it could say "missing languages" as it does on the example you linked.
:::::::Anyway... so how is that template supposed to automatically recognize which pages are translated? Does it look for whether there's a page with the same title with a two-letter language code in front of it? But some pages will have different titles in different languages - I'm not sure how you could get around adding the languages in manually. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:58, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::[http://i.imgur.com/YSWJ6.png Here's my second mockup]. And once you click on "show missing languages", it will look like [http://i.imgur.com/et5at.png this]. To be listed, a "missing language" must have a translation of the main page of this wiki. That seems like a good compromise to avoid listing hundreds of languages... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:38, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::::They look awesome, but to be honest, I would expect this choice on the top of the page :/ With this nitty flags it doesn't consume to much space. The other great thing of the hidden languages is that you can add a translation to a page easily, that is missed in your mockups, right? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:31, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::::"that is missed in your mockups, right?" - nope, check out the second proposal. It's structured the same as the one you linked to, but with flags instead of language names and on the right side of the page instead of right at the top. I think it is better to have it on the right side so as not to distract most readers by being right at the top. Most readers will not be looking for other languages but to start reading the article. Also, if you look on various websites that are multilingual, the little flags to change languages are usually in the right-hand corner of the page, so this will be familiar. With the flags, as you said, it will take up very little horizontal space, so there is no reason to have it take up more space than is needed. Taking up ALL of the top horizontal space only makes sense if you're going to write out each language name in text, because that would take up too much ''vertical'' space if you kept it to the upper right. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 15:25, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
:BTW I checked out, that you can change the skin already now to Vector, that is the new Mediawiki user interface everywhere. Douch, guess I should read the manual first ;) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:00, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

== Goals of this wiki ==

Hi there, just a simple questions before I start any harder refactoring or contributing to this wiki. What are the main goals for this platform? What usecases do you spot on? How established is it within the pandora community?

Maybe we should make an IRC session focused on further plans on the wiki? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:54, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I would prefer to keep such discussions in a place with a permanent record of what is posted. Also because many of the contributors contribute every so often, and I'd rather leave the discussion open to more eyes than have an intense IRC discussion of just a few people. If you'd like a wider discussion, you could start a topic in the GP32X Pandora general section... or we could keep it here and accept that it may not move as quickly as you'd like.
:Now then, as for the goals: This wiki started out <s>two</s> three years ago largely because the Pandora team didn't have the time or the resources to put together a comprehensive user manual for the Pandora, so they decided to outsource the task to the community. Well, that actually happened a bit later, but it was a major project, anyway. These days, the wiki generally acts as a place where Pandora owners write down important things for reference. The sorts of things that would have gotten lost with the passage of time on the forums. The main activity happens on the forums, and the wiki is like the "long-term memory" of the community. Hence, the [[tutorials]], the various tips and tricks that you see in different articles, hardware documentation, bug reports, and software lists. This is all here so that important things don't get forgotten just because they were done a long time ago. A lot of devs use it for the same reason, as a place to have an organized reference of the things they're working on. So in large part, the wiki is like a collection of what once would have been spread out on different sites - most articles were created mainly by one person.
:My main task in bringing the disparate elements together into a structure I see like this: to make sure that all related articles are linked to each other, via wikilinks or categories. But I don't try to interfere in stylistic decisions much. A lot of it is "not my business", frankly, especially the dev articles. ;) If I, personally as a Pandora owner, care about the organization of a particular article, I'll make a case for changing it in the talk page, or do the changes right away if I'm pretty sure that they'll be uncontroversial. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:03, 26 April 2011 (MEST)

== News bar? ==

Hi, what do you think about adding a newslist to the mainpage collecting all informations of the different forums and listing the official announcements? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:34, 24 April 2011 (MEST)
:Well, I don't really see the need for official announcements - we have the [http://stalker.openpandora.org/ Pandora Stalker] and PandoraPress for that. Who decides what is "official"? As for "community news", those are already collected on the three software lists. One can subscribe to the RSS feed of those articles and thereby keep abreast of the latest events - or simply check them once in a while and sort by date to see what you missed. As I said above, I think the wiki is more like the long-term-memory of the community; the reference library rather than the TV channel. It's hard work to keep it up-to-date as it is. Are you volunteering to keep the news up-to-date if we add a news bar? The development of the wiki rests largely on who's willing to do the developing. ;) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 16:31, 26 April 2011 (MEST)
::Well updating is not the problem but to get the news. I'm not very excited about the currently very distributed communication infrastructure and so I think it might be a good chance to collect them at a single point so newbies doesn't have to checkout a lot of portals or semi official blogs...--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:32, 26 April 2011 (MEST)

== Merging with german wiki ==

Hi, sorry for putting that much topics on your todo list, but I like to ask even here if you would give the [http://wiki.openpandora.de german wiki users] a warm welcome? AFAIK there is currently only one maintainer left, but their wiki is quite good organized and has some really interesting aspects (e.g. icons for buttons,...). To me it sounds wise to first cleanup our own articles and then merge both wikis and use this process to update all the articles --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 23:17, 25 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Software projects

2011-04-26T17:29:33Z

ABC: /* Switch to a template */ sig

{{TalkEtiquette}}

I think the games should be split into ports and original games. Of course, this might sometimes be hard to decide, for example with Wizzley Presto, which is a new original game but could also be called a port from the iPhone version... [[User:OrR|OrR]]

I think that's a good idea. But I got stuck on that same blurred line while planning a blog feature for homebrew games. Wizzley Presto is one, also GP2X games like Pool Panic and Battle Jewels. For my purposes (being to showcase our scene's own work) I decided that these games should fall under originals, because (i) it's all talent from within our scene, and (ii) the original authors are doing the porting. I don't know if we can apply such subjective rules to wiki categories though. [[User:Gruso|Gruso]]

How about 3 categories:
*ports of classic games
*ports from other platforms
*original Pandora games
[[User:OrR|OrR]]
:Then I propose not splitting the list, but simply adding another column onto the end and marking each game "classic", "original", etc.. That way, if anyone wants to, he can "sort" the table into the correct categories.

:On an unrelated note, I can't seem to figure out where to put GemRB. It doesn't seem to be a "game" as such, but a game engine port. But should it go into "emulators" along with ScummVM? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:17, 10 June 2009 (CEST)

== "Where in world is... " ==

There is an entry under Games named "Where in world is... " which just links back to a Polish blog and doesn't appear to be a real game/application. Can anyone confirm this is a genuine entry? [[User:Enverex|Enverex]] 23:30, 8 August 2009 (MEST)

I am pretty sure "Wandor" and "warioland-inspired game" are the same--[[User:Kuru|Kuru]] 12:02, 6 March 2010 (MET)

== Stuff that should be removed from "Other programs"==

I don't see any reason to list the programs that are already included with the Pandora or those already in the Angstrom repo. I guess that list hasn't been updated since after the pandora started shipping. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 04:28, 23 June 2010 (MEST)

Agree - this page should be for holding info on active developments, as a reference for when someone is looking for a program for a certain function. I like the move of games/emus to independant pages. Might be worth using the 'category' feature to tie together all individual dev/released project pages as they grow too. --[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 12:51, 23 June 2010 (MEST)

== Combining released and in development stuff. ==

This page was great before the pandora was out, but now that it is I don't think it makes sense to look in two different places for what's released and what's in development. That's why I have moved the in development games and emulator lists to their own pages (those pages include released games and emulators). Now when something goes from in development to released, it's a simple matter of moving the game up to the released list rather than to another page.
--[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 05:10, 23 June 2010 (MEST)
:I agree, and I think it's time to do the same thing for this page as well. I'm working on it. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:56, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
:Ok, it's done. I started a thread on the forums [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55047-pandora-wiki-list-of-everything-except-games-emulators/ over here] for discussion, though of course someone could say something over here as well. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:14, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
== Angstrom Linux OS ==
Arn't we using a moddifed version of that? Why would that be uncomplete?
:Because the list was out of date, I just removed it --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 23:07, 8 July 2010 (MEST)

==Minimenu skins==
I think this (http://pandorawiki.org/Software_projects#Skins) should be either moved to an entirely different page (like a page for minimenu, which could be used for other stuff, too - like tracking beta versions) or at least below the Operating systems category, does not really make sense to mention the skins before mentioning the actual program they are used with. Also I feel like skins don't really fall into the category of "software" so I would favour the first approach. [[User:Foxblock|Foxblock]] 15:43, 16 April 2011 (MEST)

== Switch to a template ==

Hi, I created a template that creates the same table [[User:ABC/playground]] but has some pros (in my oppinion):
* easy to edit, cause people see what they change
* seperates content from it's representation
* alter/extend representation at any time without any troubles
Would it be ok for you if I change all tables in that kind? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 19:29, 26 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Software projects

2011-04-26T17:29:23Z

ABC: /* Switch to a template */ new section

{{TalkEtiquette}}

I think the games should be split into ports and original games. Of course, this might sometimes be hard to decide, for example with Wizzley Presto, which is a new original game but could also be called a port from the iPhone version... [[User:OrR|OrR]]

I think that's a good idea. But I got stuck on that same blurred line while planning a blog feature for homebrew games. Wizzley Presto is one, also GP2X games like Pool Panic and Battle Jewels. For my purposes (being to showcase our scene's own work) I decided that these games should fall under originals, because (i) it's all talent from within our scene, and (ii) the original authors are doing the porting. I don't know if we can apply such subjective rules to wiki categories though. [[User:Gruso|Gruso]]

How about 3 categories:
*ports of classic games
*ports from other platforms
*original Pandora games
[[User:OrR|OrR]]
:Then I propose not splitting the list, but simply adding another column onto the end and marking each game "classic", "original", etc.. That way, if anyone wants to, he can "sort" the table into the correct categories.

:On an unrelated note, I can't seem to figure out where to put GemRB. It doesn't seem to be a "game" as such, but a game engine port. But should it go into "emulators" along with ScummVM? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:17, 10 June 2009 (CEST)

== "Where in world is... " ==

There is an entry under Games named "Where in world is... " which just links back to a Polish blog and doesn't appear to be a real game/application. Can anyone confirm this is a genuine entry? [[User:Enverex|Enverex]] 23:30, 8 August 2009 (MEST)

I am pretty sure "Wandor" and "warioland-inspired game" are the same--[[User:Kuru|Kuru]] 12:02, 6 March 2010 (MET)

== Stuff that should be removed from "Other programs"==

I don't see any reason to list the programs that are already included with the Pandora or those already in the Angstrom repo. I guess that list hasn't been updated since after the pandora started shipping. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 04:28, 23 June 2010 (MEST)

Agree - this page should be for holding info on active developments, as a reference for when someone is looking for a program for a certain function. I like the move of games/emus to independant pages. Might be worth using the 'category' feature to tie together all individual dev/released project pages as they grow too. --[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 12:51, 23 June 2010 (MEST)

== Combining released and in development stuff. ==

This page was great before the pandora was out, but now that it is I don't think it makes sense to look in two different places for what's released and what's in development. That's why I have moved the in development games and emulator lists to their own pages (those pages include released games and emulators). Now when something goes from in development to released, it's a simple matter of moving the game up to the released list rather than to another page.
--[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 05:10, 23 June 2010 (MEST)
:I agree, and I think it's time to do the same thing for this page as well. I'm working on it. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:56, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
:Ok, it's done. I started a thread on the forums [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55047-pandora-wiki-list-of-everything-except-games-emulators/ over here] for discussion, though of course someone could say something over here as well. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:14, 5 July 2010 (MEST)
== Angstrom Linux OS ==
Arn't we using a moddifed version of that? Why would that be uncomplete?
:Because the list was out of date, I just removed it --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 23:07, 8 July 2010 (MEST)

==Minimenu skins==
I think this (http://pandorawiki.org/Software_projects#Skins) should be either moved to an entirely different page (like a page for minimenu, which could be used for other stuff, too - like tracking beta versions) or at least below the Operating systems category, does not really make sense to mention the skins before mentioning the actual program they are used with. Also I feel like skins don't really fall into the category of "software" so I would favour the first approach. [[User:Foxblock|Foxblock]] 15:43, 16 April 2011 (MEST)

== Switch to a template ==

Hi, I created a template that creates the same table [[User:ABC/playground]] but has some pros (in my oppinion):
* easy to edit, cause people see what they change
* seperates content from it's representation
* alter/extend representation at any time without any troubles
Would it be ok for you if I change all tables in that kind?

User:ABC/playground

2011-04-26T17:19:02Z

ABC: software cats

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|version=
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|authors=The Chromium Authors, EvilDragon (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56474-chromium-4-with-ssl-and-chromium-snapshot/ Discussion]. SSL now works
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,112,90 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Chromium-Dev v
|date=2011-01-16
|state=
|version=0.0.642.1
|authors=The Chromium Authors, EvilDragon (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58234-chromium-dev-snapshot-v10-0-642-1/ Discussion] [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57017-chromium-dev-updated/ (old)]. The latest (non-stable) snapshot.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,112,201 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Claunch
|date=2010-10-14
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=Lamoxx
|category=System - app launcher
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57040-claunch-minimal-flexible-rom-pickerapplication-launcher/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://userpages.uni-koblenz.de/~bbrink/tmp/claunch_beta.tar.gz Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Claws Mail
|date=2010-10-03
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - mail client
|notes=Stand-alone PND. [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56810-html-viewer-for-claws-mail/page__view__findpost__p__920075 Discussion]. Hopefully doesn't save to NAND (testing needed).
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/claw-mail.pnd Download] [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,113,223 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Cmus
|date=2010-11-27
|state=
|version=
|authors=otherguy66 (port)
|category=Audio - music player
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57682-cmus-pnd-installer/page__gopid__928328&#entry928328 Discussion]. Installed to [[NAND]] (1mb). Text mode player
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,6,251 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Code::blocks
|date=2010-06-07
|state=
|version=
|authors=sinoth (port)
|category=Development - IDE
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/54091-codeblocks-on-the-pandora/ Discussion].
|archive=[http://sinoth.net/pandora/codeblocks.pnd.gz Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Community Codec Package
|date=2010-05-25
|state=
|version=
|authors=Pandora team
|category=System
|notes=Make sure you have this installed
|archive=[http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Other/CodecPack.inf Apps] [http://openpandora.org/downloads/CodecPack.pnd Official site]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Comix
|date=2010-06-30
|state=
|version=
|authors=Pontus Ekberg
|category=Graphics - image viewer
|notes=
|archive=[http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/comix.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Conky
|date=2010-08-03
|state=
|version=
|authors=daniel3000 (port)
|category=System
|notes=System monitor. [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55775-conky Discussion]
|archive=[http://www.hermocom.com/en/downloads/openpandora/Conky.pnd/ Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Converseen
|date=2011-03-03
|state=
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=Graphics - image editor
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58859-converseen/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,339 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=DarCalc
|date=2010-08-28
|state=
|version=
|authors=JP
|category=Office - calculator
|notes=See also the calculator emulators [[Emulator list
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,196 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Deadbeef
|date=2010-11-01
|state=
|version=0.4.3
|authors=CME (port), sebt3 (port)
|category=Audio - music player
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55178-deadbeef-compiled-with-codesourcery-gcc-2010q1/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://root.shadow-node.net/public/cme/pnd/deadbeef.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=dia
|date=2010-10-03
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Office - diagrams
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56863-dia/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/dia.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=DrawSWF
|date=2010-07-10
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=Chrysipp (port)
|category=Graphics - vector drawing
|notes=[http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D59%26t%3D10105%26sid%3D5788c986948f651167f85a989309482d&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhilcfdbJF4gEtvmTIwMjO9EFqUQ-A Discussion (German)]. Must have Java.pnd installed.
|archive=[http://www.pandorasource.de/download.php?view.158 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Effigy (PEF) Emulator Frontend
|date=2011-04-04
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=Aimless_E
|category=System - frontend
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2276-effigy-pef-emulator-frontend/page__view__findpost__p__47107 Discussion] ([http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/44952-pandora-emulator-frontend/ old])
|archive=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=415 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Ekiga
|date=2010-10-29
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - VOIP
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57263-ekiga/ Discussion]. Online phone & video calls. '''[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57263-ekiga/page__view__findpost__p__924918 Doesn't work]'''
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/ekiga.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Emelfm2
|date=2011-03-09
|state=
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=System - file manager
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58928-port-request-emelfm2/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,116,351 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Empathy
|date=2011-03-08
|state=beta
|version=2.29.6
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - IM client
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58911-empathy/ Discussion]. No networks included yet.
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/empathy.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Enna
|date=2010-07-08
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Media player
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55113-enna/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/enna.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Exaile
|date=2010-04-28
|state=
|version=
|authors=Pickle (port)
|category=Audio - music player
|notes=Needs Community Codec Pack to run
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,6,43 Archive] [http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/Exaile.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Extend Utils
|date=2010-06-22
|state=
|version=
|authors=Stuckie
|category=System
|notes=Discussion: [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/54651-debian-in-an-extend/ 1], [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56462-pandora-phone-openoffice-amsn-yes-d/ 2]. Debian in an extend. Allows you to run over 29,000 programs.
|archive=[http://www.stuckiegamez.co.uk/apps/pandora/SimpleDev/extendutils.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=F3
|date=2010-10-17
|state=
|version=
|authors=slaeshjag (port)
|category=System
|notes=Test for fake flash memory (like H2testw). [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57063-some-quick-tips-to-help-avoid-fake-sd-cardsflash-media/page__view__findpost__p__922187 Discussion]
|archive=[http://stuffs.slaeshjag.org/F3.tar Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=FBReader
|date=2010-07-26
|state=
|version=0.12.10
|authors=zx81 (port)
|category=Office - eBook Reader
|notes=
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,113,168 Archive] [http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/fbreader-0.12.10.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Fennec
|date=2011-02-03
|state=beta
|version=4.0b3
|authors=Mozilla Team, EvilDragon (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58514-fennec-4-0b3/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,112,75 Archive] [http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/Fennec40.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Fennec
|date=2010-05-30
|state=
|version=3.6.3
|authors=Mozilla Team, Iampanis (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=mobile version of FireFox
|archive=[http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/fennec.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Figaro's Password Manager 2
|date=2010-11-30
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=System - passwords
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57714-figaros-password-manager-2/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,254 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Firefox
|date=2010-06-14
|state=
|version=
|authors=Evildragon (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,112,91 Archive] [http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/FireFox.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Firefox
|date=2011-01-28
|state=
|version=3.6.13
|authors=Mozilla team, hdonk (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56903-firefox-3-6-10/ Discussion (old)], [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58425-firefox-3-6-13/ news/discussion]
|archive=[http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/firefox-3.6.13-0.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Firefox
|date=2011-02-01
|state=beta
|version=4.0B10
|authors=Mozilla team, hdonk (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58489-firefox-4-beta-10/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/firefox-4b10-0.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=FlipClock
|date=2011-02-05
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=torpor (port)
|category=Office
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58548-port-flipclock-for-pandora/ Discussion], also [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58479-alarm-clock-app/page__view__findpost__p__937668 here]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/alarmclock.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Fotoxx
|date=2010-12-06
|state=
|version=
|authors=Kornelix<br/>mcobit (port)
|category=Graphics - photo editor & manager
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57777-fotoxx/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,261 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Freemind
|date=2011-03-10<br/>2010-11-21
|state=
|version=0.9.0
|authors=mash (port)
|category=Office - mind mapping
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/679-freemind-a-mindmap-tool/page__view__findpost__p__39752 Discussion] [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57605-freemind-a-mindmap-tool/ (old)] . Needs java.pnd installed.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,4,240 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=GanttProject
|date=2011-03-19
|state=
|version=2.0.10
|authors=mash (port)
|category=Office - project management
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2491-ganttproject-2010/ Discussion] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GanttProject Wiki article]. Needs Java.pnd
|archive=[http://mash-systeme.de/downloads/ganttproject.pnd Download] [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,113,364 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=GCalc
|date=2010-11-23
|state=
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=Office - calculator
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57636-gcalc-graphic-calculator/ Discussion]. Needs java.pnd installed. See also the calculator emulators [[Emulator list]]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,241 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=gCalctool
|date=2011-02-26
|state=
|version=
|authors=mash (port)
|category=Office - calculator
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1964-mutt-links2-and-gcalctool/page__gopid__36838#entry36838 Discussion].
|archive=[http://mash-systeme.de/downloads/gcalctool.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Geany
|date=2010-09-16
|state=
|version=0.19-1
|authors=bompo (port)
|category=Office - text editor
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55432-geany/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,14,205 Archive] [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39448/pandora/geany.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=gedit
|date=2010-10-03
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Office - text editor
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56862-gedit/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/gedit.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=gerbv
|date=2010-09-14
|state=
|version=
|authors=bompo (port)
|category=Office - EDA
|notes=viewer for Gerber RS-274X, Excellon drill, & CSV pick-and-place files
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,202 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Get iPlayer
|date=2011-04-23
|state=
|version=
|authors=freamon (port)
|category=Multimedia - File Downloader
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/3045-get-iplayer/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=getiplayer.freamon.40n8e Repo]
}}
{{software_item
|name=gFTP
|date=2010-07-01
|state=beta
|version=2.0.18
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - FTP client
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/54931-gftp/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/gftp.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=GIMP
|date=2011-04-07
|state=
|version=2.6.11.1
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Graphics - image editor
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/59172-gimp-2-6-9/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=gimp-gimp-2.6-4644 Repo]
}}
{{software_item
|name=GIMP
|date=2010-06-06
|state=beta
|version=2.6
|authors=Stuckie (quick hack)
|category=Graphics - image editor
|notes=Read instructions [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/54071-ubuntu-or-other-dist-alternative/page__p__868411&#entry868411 here]
|archive=[http://www.stuckiegamez.co.uk/apps/pandora/gimp-2.6.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Gmu Music Player
|date=2010-12-29
|state=
|version=0.7.2
|authors=wejp
|category=Audio - music player
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58009-gmu-music-player-0-7-2/ Discussion] [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55007-gmu-music-player-0-7-1-released/ (old)]
|archive=[http://wejp.k.vu/files/gmu-0.7.2.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Gnomad 2
|date=2010-10-18
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Audio - music manager
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57088-gnomad2/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/gnomad2.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Gnome Music Player Client (GMPC)
|date=2010-08-01
|state=beta
|version=0.20.0
|authors=tsh (port)
|category=Audio - music player
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55664-gmpc-beta/ Discussion]
|archive=[https://sites.google.com/site/tshpandorastuff/file-cabinet/gmpc0.20.0.pnd?attredirects=0&d=1 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Gnumeric
|date=2011-01-17
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Office - spreadsheet
|notes=Stand-alone PND. [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56810-html-viewer-for-claws-mail/page__view__findpost__p__920072 Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/gnumeric.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=GoldenDict
|date=2010-09-27
|state=
|version=0.9.0Svn
|authors=Hitnrun (port)
|category=Office - dictionary
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56802-goldendict-0-9-0svn/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,8,209 Archive] [http://www.rangelreale.com/pandora/goldendict.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=GParted
|date=2011-02-05
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=System - partition
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56915-gparted/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/gparted.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=gPicView
|date=2011-03-10
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Graphics - image viewer
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58938-gpicview/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/gpicview.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=GQview
|date=2010-07-27
|state=
|version=
|authors=daniel3000 (port)
|category=Graphics - image viewer
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55559-gqview-pnd-image-viewer-available/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://www.hermocom.com/en/downloads/openpandora/GQview.pnd/ Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Grafx2
|date=2010-12-30
|state=
|version=
|authors=pulkomandy, yrizoud, mcobit (port)
|category=Graphics - image editor
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58016-grafx2/ Discussion]. For pixel art.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,264 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Grafx2 SVN v1713
|date=2011-02-26
|state=
|version=
|authors=pulkomandy, yrizoud, et al.
|category=Graphics - image editor
|notes=For pixel art.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,330 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=GrooveShark Player
|date=2011-03-11
|state=
|version=
|authors=Elias Woods, coldbird (port)
|category=Network - music streaming
|notes=Discussion: [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58952-getting-on-grooveshark/page__view__findpost__p__942959 GP32X] [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2273-compile-groove-for-pandora/ OP]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grooveshark Grooveshark] client.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,6,354 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Groove
|date=2010-07-19
|state=
|version=
|authors=Elias Woods, bompo (port)
|category=Network - music streaming
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58952-getting-on-grooveshark/ Discussion]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grooveshark Grooveshark] client. '''Warning''':
|archive=[http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39448/pandora/Groove.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=GRsync
|date=2011-03-03
|state=
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=System - file manager
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58861-grsync/ Discussion]. Synchronize folders & files, make backups
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,340 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Gwaei
|date=2010-11-26
|state=
|version=
|authors=Zachary Dovel<br/>mcobit (port)
|category=Office - dictionary
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57674-gwaei-port-japanese-english-dictionary/ Discussion]. Japanese-English.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,249 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=hfsutils
|date=2011-03-10
|state=
|version=
|authors=Silent-Hunter (port)
|category=System
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2236-hfsutils-port/ Discussion]. For reading & writing Macintosh file systems.
|archive=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=295 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=HomeBank
|date=2011-02-26
|state=
|version=4.3
|authors=Maxime Doyen, mcobit (port)
|category=Office - money manager
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58506-homebank/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,113,296 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Hotfix 5
|date=2011-03-04
|state=
|version=
|authors=Pandora team
|category=System
|notes=Make sure you have this installed. Discussion: [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58867-hotfix-5-released/ GP32X] [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2080-hotfix-5-released/page__pid__37497#entry37497 OP]
|archive=[http://www.openpandora.org/downloads/HotFix5-Zaxxon.pnd Official site]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Inkscape
|date=2010-10-08
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Graphics - vector drawing
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56954-inkscape/ Discussion]. Currently very slow.
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/inkscape.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Java Pnd
|date=2010-11-21
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=WizardStan (port)
|category=System - dependency
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57598-java-pnd/ Discussion]. Run Java apps.
|archive=[http://rebirthofxeen.com/files/pandora/java.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=jEdit
|date=2010-11-22
|state=
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=Office - text editor
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57614-jedit-programmers-text-editor/ Discussion]. For programmers. Needs java.pnd installed.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,244 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=jChemPaint
|date=2010-11-23
|state=
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=Graphics - molecule drawing
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57633-jchempaint/ Discussion]. Needs java.pnd installed.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,242 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=jMol
|date=2010-11-22
|state=
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=Graphics - molecule viewing in 3D
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57618-jmol-3d-molecule-viewer/ Discussion]. Needs java.pnd installed.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,243 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=jMP3 Player
|date=2010-07-10
|state=
|version=
|authors=jaijuju
|category=Audio - music player
|notes=[http://code.google.com/p/jmp3player/ Website]. Java.pnd required.
|archive=[http://www.pandorasource.de/download.php?view.156 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Jumanji
|date=2011-03-03
|state=
|version=
|authors=b3w (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=[http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=11821 Discussion (German)]. [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Jumanji Wiki]
|archive=[http://www.mediafire.com/?5va2dj4x6bkrobi Download] [http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/jumanji.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=KCHMViewer
|date=2010-10-05
|state=
|version=5.2
|authors=Hitnrun (port)
|category=Office - CHM Reader
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56901-kcmviewer/ Discussion.] Windows help files reader.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,113,215 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=KDiff 3
|date=2011-02-03
|state=
|version=
|authors=Joachim Eibl
|category=System
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1440-kdiff3-0995-pandora-3/ Discussion]. Merge 2 or 3 text input files or directories
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,299 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Keyboard layout changer
|date=2011-03-18
|state=
|version=
|authors=slaeshjag
|category=System - configuration
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2428-keyboard-layout-changer/ Discussion]. Shows up in Settings as Keyboard Layout
|archive=[http://stuffs.slaeshjag.org/kblayout.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Liferea
|date=2010-07-06
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - RSS Reader
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55089-liferea/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/liferea.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Lightweight2
|date=2011-04-09
|state=
|version=1.8.0.2
|authors=cpttom, mcobit (port), Zero3K (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58836-lightweight2/page__view__findpost__p__945285 Discussion]. Small, fast browser.
|archive=[http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=lightweight2-Lightweight2-112245 Repo]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Links2
|date=2011-03-10
|state=
|version=
|authors=mash (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1964-mutt-links2-and-gcalctool/ Discussion].
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,112,333 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Linksys AE1000 USB Wifi (installer)
|date=2011-04-01
|state=
|version=
|authors=Jey123456
|category=Network - USB Wifi driver
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1992-linksys-ae1000-usb-wifi/page__view__findpost__p__46426 Discussion]. Get internet anywhere.
|archive=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=379 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Linphone
|date=2011-01-20
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - VOIP
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58289-linphone Discussion]. Online phone calls.
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/linphone.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Lynx
|date=2011-02-28
|state=
|version=2.8.7
|authors=Mhaws (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1998-lynx-087/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,112,331 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Me TV
|date=2010-10-19
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - digital TV
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56987-port-request-me-tv/page__p__921501&#entry921501 Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/metv.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Merkaartor
|date=2011-01-27
|state=
|version=0.17.0
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Office - openstreetmap editor
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56656-merkaartor-or-other-osm-editor/page__p__922345&#entry922345 Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/merkaartor.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Midnightcommander
|date=2011-03-27
|state=
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=System - file manager
|notes=Discussion: [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2621-midnightcommander/ OP] [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/59103-midnightcommander/ GP32X]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,116,367 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Midori
|date=2011-04-05
|state=
|version=0.3.3-1
|authors=slaeshjag (port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/59121-midori-0-3-3/ Discussion] Fixed version of Midori.
|archive=[http://stuffs.slaeshjag.org/midori-0.3.3-1.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=MilkyTracker
|date=2010-06-23
|state=
|version=
|authors=Stuckie (port)
|category=Audio - music tracker
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57612-remember-the-only-2-keyboard-buttons-at-once-limitation/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,6,102 Archive] [http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/milkytracker.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Minitube
|date=2011-04-09
|state=
|version=1.4.1.1
|authors=Flavio Tordini, sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - Youtube client
|notes=Discussion: [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55952-minitube-1-1/ v1.1] [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58183-minitube-1-3/ v1.3] [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57099-new-version-of-minitube-avaiable/page__view__findpost__p__946029 v1.4]. Youtube browser/player
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/?f=minitube.pnd Download] [http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=minitube Repo]
}}
{{software_item
|name=mtPaint
|date=2010-07-27<br/>2010-12-29
|state=
|version=
|authors=Mark Tyler, daniel3000 (port 1), chris_c (port 2)
|category=Graphics - image editor
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55561-mtpaint-pnd-available/ Discussion]. For painting & pixel art. Ported twice.
|archive=[http://www.hermocom.com/en/downloads/openpandora/mtPaint.pnd/ Download (port 1)] [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,263 Archive (port 2)]
}}
{{software_item
|name=MuPDF
|date=2011-04-13
|state=
|version=
|authors=b3w (port)
|category=Office - PDF viewer
|notes=[http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=11994 Discussion (German)].
|archive=[http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=11994 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Mutt
|date=2011-03-01
|state=
|version=
|authors=mash (port)
|category=Network - email client
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1964-mutt-links2-and-gcalctool/ Discussion]. Text-based.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,112,334 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=MyPaint
|date=2011-02-27
|state=
|version=
|authors=First (port)
|category=Graphics - image editor
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1817-mypaint-port/ Discussion]. [http://mypaint.intilinux.com/ Website]. Has pressure sensitivity.
|archive=[http://webusers.spa.umn.edu/~laurens/pnd/mypaint-0.9.0.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=ncmpcpp4P
|date=2011-03-01
|state=
|version=0.5.7.0
|authors=remogatto (port)
|category=Audio - music player
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2032-ncmpcpp4p/ Discussion]. [http://unkart.ovh.org/ncmpcpp/ Website] ncurses-based music player
|archive=[https://github.com/downloads/remogatto/ncmpcpp4P/ncmpcpp4P_v0.5.7.0.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Netsurf
|date=2011-03-08
|state=
|version=2.6
|authors=slaeshjag(port)
|category=Network - web browser
|notes=Discussion: [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2129-netsurf/ OP] [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58913-netsurf-2-6/ GP32X] No SSL support
|archive=[http://stuffs.slaeshjag.org/netsurf.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Nightvision
|date=2011-03-12
|state=
|version=3.0
|authors=F_Slim (port)
|category=Office - planetarium
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2299-nightvision-30/ Discussion] [http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=11810 (German}]. Needs java.pnd installed. May not work in HF5
|archive=[http://www.slimpages.de/extern/nightvision.pnd.zip Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Ommpc
|date=2010-10-06
|state=
|version=0.5.4
|authors=Tim Temple
|category=Audio - music player
|notes=MPD client [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55039-ommpc-v0-5-2/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,6,133 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=OSM2Go
|date=2010-10-20
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Office - openstreetmap editor
|notes=
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/osm2go.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Osmo
|date=2010-09-03
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Office - personal organizer
|notes=[http://clayo.org/osmo/ Website] [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56455-osmo/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/osmo.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=PanDebian
|date=2011-02-04
|state=
|version=
|authors=Gregor
|category=System
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1474-pandebian/ Discussion]. [[Extend Utils]] alternative for Angstrom-Debian cooperation
|archive=[http://codu.org/tmp/pandebian.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Pandora Fractals
|date=2010-08-26
|state=
|version=
|authors=Or Green
|category=Graphics - fractals
|notes=fractal generator. [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/51402-mandelbrot-set-generator-for-pandora/page__st__75 Discussion]
|archive=[http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Other/PFractals.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Pandora SD Installer
|date=2011-03-19
|state=
|version=1.2
|authors=Dave1234
|category=System
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2297-pandora-sd-installer/page__view__findpost__p__42772 Discussion]. Install Pandora OS to your SD card.
|archive=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=337 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=PanPlayer Beta 4
|date=2011-02-24
|state=
|version=
|authors=JDGBOLT
|category=Media player
|notes='''Needs Hotfix 5'''. [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58769-panplayer-beta/ Discussion]. Optimized mplayer build
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,114,298 Archive] [http://apps.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/PanPlayer.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Pencil
|date=2010-11-04
|state=beta
|version=0.4.4b
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Graphics - animation
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57362-pencil/ Discussion]. 2D animation & drawing.
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/pencil.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Pepviewer
|date=2011-02-22
|state=
|version=
|authors=Skadus (port)
|category=Graphics - image viewer
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1869-pepviewer/ Discussion]. Ported from PSP.
|archive=[http://www.mediafire.com/?t0sop9wrj087e1t Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Pidgin
|date=2011-03-03
|state=
|version=2.7.10
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - IM client
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56898-pidgin/ Discussion]. This version no longer uses [[NAND]] to [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56898-pidgin/page__view__findpost__p__934658 store data].
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/pidgin.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=PNDbuilder
|date=2011-02-22
|state=
|version=1.1
|authors=freedomdown (Ryan Dallaire)
|category=Development
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58587-pndbuilder/page__view__findpost__p__940230 Discussion]. Graphical PND maker.
|archive=[http://www.freedomdown.ca/storage/pndb.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=PS3 Bluetooth Controller - Sixpair Utility
|date=2010-06-13
|state=
|version=
|authors=Jim Paris, Samson Yeung, AireTamStrm (port)
|category=System
|notes=Use a DualShock III Controller or SIXAXIS controller via USB
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,4 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=pnd_assoc
|date=2011-03-29
|state=
|version=
|authors=Jey123456
|category=System
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2634-pnd-assoc/ Discussion] Associate file types with PNDs
|archive=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=369 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=pnd_r
|date=2011-04-09
|state=beta
|version=n.sh installer
|authors=sebt3
|category=System
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/59113-pnd-run-sh/ Discussion]. Fix PND crashing errors since HF5.
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/pnd_run_installer.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=pnd_utils
|date=2011-03-30
|state=
|version=
|authors=Jey123456
|category=System
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2688-pnd-utils/ Discussion] Includes pnd_assoc and some other features.
|archive=[http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=Pnd_Utils Repo]
}}
{{software_item
|name=PNDStore
|date=2011-04-13
|state=
|version=0.2.2.0
|authors=Tempel
|category=System - Application Downloader/Updater
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/59148-pndstore/page__view__findpost__p__946289 Discussion]
|archive=[http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=pndstore Repo]
}}
{{software_item
|name=PSFreedom
|date=2010-09-23
|state=
|version=
|authors=Notaz (port)
|category=Other
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56752-psfreedom-for-pandora/ Discussion]. Allows homebrew on your PS3.
|archive=[http://pandorapress.net/gruso/psfreedom.ko Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=qBittorrent
|date=2011-03-16
|state=
|version=
|authors=Coldbird (port)
|category=Network - BitTorrent client
|notes=Discussion: [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58993-qbittorrent/ GP32X] [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2389-qbittorrent/page__gopid__41612#entry41612 OP]
|archive=[http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13011238/qbittorrent-1.3.3-pandora.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=qOrganizer
|date=2010-11-04
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Office - organizer
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57359-qorganizer/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/qorganizer.pnd Download] [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,113,233 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=QSynth & FluidSynth
|date=2011-03-18
|state=beta
|version=0.3.5
|authors=Kazuki (port)
|category=Audio - synthesizer
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/59011-porting-qsynth-fluidsynth-with-yactfeau/page__view__findpost__p__943670 Discussion] [http://qsynth.sourceforge.net/qsynth-index.html Website]
|archive=[http://pandora.idb.s1.jcink.com/qsynth-0.3.5.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=QtSpotify
|date=2011-03-11
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - music streaming
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58955-qtspotify/ Discussion]. Spotify client.
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/qtspotify.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Quick Change CPU Speed
|date=2010-06-20
|state=
|version=
|authors=Pleng
|category=System
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/54583-quick-change-cpu-speeds/ Discussion]. Add CPU speed presets to your menu.
|archive=[http://www.strappysolutions.com/demos/pandora/CPUSpeeds.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=RAM Defragger
|date=2011-03-16
|state=
|version=0.4.0
|authors=Tobias 'knilch' Jordan
|category=System
|notes=memory optimizer
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,359 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Remmina
|date=2010-06-21
|state=
|version=
|authors=mindlord (port)
|category=Network - VNC/RDP/XDMCP client
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/54610-remmina-0-7-5/ Discussion]. Control your PC from your Pandora.
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,112,99 Archive] [http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/remmina.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Rockbox
|date=2011-04-20
|state=beta
|version=3.8.x.3
|authors=Thomas Jarosch, froggyman (port)
|category=Audio - music player
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2094-rockbox-as-an-app/page__view__findpost__p__51473 Discussion]
|archive=[http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=rockbox.thomasjfox.003 Repo] [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,6,343 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=RText
|date=2010-07-10
|state=
|version=
|authors=Fifesoft, Chrysipp (port)
|category=Development - text editor
|notes=[http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D59%26t%3D10106%26sid%3D5788c986948f651167f85a989309482d&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhivaNHspNg4XSb4aOpjskxivvIRXw Discussion (German)]. Must have Java.pnd installed.
|archive=[http://www.pandorasource.de/download.php?view.157 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Schism Mod Player
|date=2010-06-10
|state=
|version=
|authors=?
|category=Audio - music tracker
|notes=Player for MOD and XM.
|archive=[http://www.pandorasource.de/download.php?view.79 Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Schism Tracker
|date=2010-06-19
|state=
|version=
|authors=Storlek, Stuckie (port)
|category=Audio - music tracker
|notes=Clone of Impulse Tracker
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,6,89 Archive] [http://apps.open-pandora.org/cgi-bin/viewapp.pl?/Application/schismtracker.inf Apps]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Scientific Calculator
|date=2011-02-14
|state=
|version=
|authors=Chrysipp (port)
|category=Office - calculator
|notes=[http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=11714 Discussion (German)]. Must have Java.pnd installed. If you have trouble running it, try [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/673-java-pnd/page__view__findpost__p__51226 this].
|archive=[http://web.student.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725060/JavaScientificCalculator.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Scite
|date=2010-10-20
|state=
|version=2.21
|authors=urjaman (port)
|category=Office - text editor
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57116-scite-2-21-ported/ Discussion]. Scintilla-based syntax highlighting text editor
|archive=[http://urjaman.dyndns.info/scite221.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Script Launcher
|date=2011-03-29
|state=
|version=
|authors=meandu229
|category=System
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2640-script-launcher/ Discussion] script to launch .sh files
|archive=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2640-script-launcher/ Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=SD Card Speed Fix
|date=2010-06-13
|state=
|version=
|authors=mawler
|category=System
|notes=improve SD writing speed, but risk data corruption if writing is interrupted
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,88 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Seq24
|date=2010-09-06
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=Gruso (port)
|category=Audio - music tracker
|notes=MIDI sequencer. [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56517-seq24-midi-sequencer/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://users.tpg.com.au/pw2007/seq24.beta1.pnd Download] [http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=seq24-0.8.7-pandora Repo]
}}
{{software_item
|name=SMPlayer
|date=2011-02-02
|state=
|version=0.6.9-1
|authors=Ivanovic (port)
|category=Media player
|notes=MPlayer frontend. [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58511-smplayer/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,114,298 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=SUPA
|date=2010-07-04
|state=beta
|version=0.1-1 <br/><small>Simple Updater for Pandora Applications</small>
|authors=Bryce Leo
|category=System - Application Downloader/Updater
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55023-supa-simple-updater-for-pandora-applications/ Discussion]. No GUI yet. PNDStore is probably better.
|archive=[http://drive.and-a-half.com/SUPA.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Synergy
|date=2010-10-09
|state=
|version=
|authors=Lomaxx (port)
|category=Network - VNC client
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56943-synergy-clientserver-as-pnd/ Discussion]. Control your PC from your Pandora.
|archive=[http://www.mediafire.com/?npdbkibd5bm5ckb Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Sxiv
|date=2011-04-13
|state=
|version=
|authors=b3w (port)
|category=Graphics - image viewer
|notes=[http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=11998 Discussion (German)].
|archive=[http://forum.gp2x.de/download/file.php?id=1088&sid=c7364ef00c1d355c4f22cd82b21dae0a Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=TiMidity++
|date=2011-03-21
|state=
|version=2.13.3 (player + Daemon loader)
|authors=Gruso (port)
|category=Audio - MIDI
|notes=Discussion: [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/59041-timidity-2-13-2-port/ GP32X] [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2450-timidity/ OP]. Must install Timidity MIDI Installer first.
|archive=[http://bunnitude.com/gruso/timidity-alsa-daemon.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Timidity MIDI Installer
|date=2011-01-12
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3
|category=Audio - MIDI
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58173-midi-installer/ Discussion]. MIDI patches installer.
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/timidity_midi_installer.pnd Download] [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,116,273 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Transmission
|date=2010-09-24
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Network - BitTorrent client
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56553-bit-torrent-client/ Discussion].
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/transmission.pnd Download] [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,112,208 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=TrueCrypt
|date=2011-02-12<br/>2010-07-18
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=TJSomething (port)<br/>daniel3000 (old port)
|category=System - encryption
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1763-truecrypt-port/ Discussion]. [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55347-truecrypt-pnd-ready-for-testing/ Discussion (old)].
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,321 Archive] [http://www.hermocom.com/en/downloads/openpandora/TrueCrypt.pnd/ old version]
}}
{{software_item
|name=TuxPaint (from "Tux4Kids")
|date=2011-04-20
|state=
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=Graphics - image editor
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2990-tux4kids Discussion]. Part of "Tux4Kids".
|archive=[http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=tux4kids-tux4kids-27407 Repo]
}}
{{software_item
|name=TV-Browser
|date=2011-02-13
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=chrysipp (port)
|category=Network - TV guide
|notes=[http://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=11706 Discussion (German)]. [http://sourceforge.net/projects/tvbrowser/ Website]
|archive=[http://web.student.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725060/TVBrowser.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Viewnior
|date=2011-02-26
|state=
|version=1.1
|authors=gruso (port)
|category=Graphics - image viewer
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55618-viewnior-pnd-available/page__view__findpost__p__940887 Discussion]
|archive=[http://bunnitude.com/gruso/Viewnior.pnd Download] [http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=detail&app=viewnior-viewnior-15225 Repo]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Vim Gvim
|date=2010-08-08
|state=beta
|version=7.2
|authors=joseluisjazz (port)
|category=Office - text editor
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55813-vim-gvim-7-2/ Discussion]. [http://www.vim.org/about.php About]. Not a PND.
|archive=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55813-vim-gvim-7-2/ Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=VLC
|date=2010-10-12
|state=beta
|version=1.1.0
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Media player (video & audio)
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/54922-vlc/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/vlc.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Wahcade Emulator Frontend b1
|date=2011-02-06
|state=beta
|version=
|authors=Sigma (port)
|category=System - frontend
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/1508-wahcade-frontend-beta1/ Discussion].
|archive=[http://www.mediafire.com/?h8o33khvtcy3x8m Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Wbar
|date=2011-03-03
|state=
|version=
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=System - app launcher
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58858-wbar/ Discussion].
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,8,338 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=WiFi "Another Test Wifi Driver" ('''Beta''')
|date=2011-03-05
|state=
|version=
|authors=David, notaz
|category=System
|notes=Discussion: [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58888-another-test-wifi-driver/ GP32X] [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2151-another-test-wifi-driver/ OP]. HF5 only, not for use with HF6.
|archive=[http://notaz.gp2x.de/misc/pnd/wl1251-modules_1.0-r24.5_omap3-pandora.ipk Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=WiFi '''Beta test'''
|date=2010-11-05
|state=
|version=
|authors=Evildragon
|category=System
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57364-wifi-betatest/ Discussion]. Might fix WiFi issues.
|archive=[http://www.openpandora.org/downloads/WiFiBETA.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Worker
|date=2011-04-01
|state=
|version=2.17.11
|authors=mash (port)
|category=System - file manager
|notes=[http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/2709-worker-21711/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,375 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Xarchiver
|date=2010-12-04
|state=
|version=0.5.2
|authors=mcobit (port)
|category=System - file archiver
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57748-xarchiver/ Discussion]
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,115,259 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Xbindkeys
|date=2010-10-14
|state=
|version=
|authors=Lomaxx (port)
|category=System
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57037-xbindkeys-precompiled/ Discussion]. Configure hotkeys
|archive=[http://userpages.uni-koblenz.de/~bbrink/tmp/xbindkeys-1.8.3_prebuild.tar.gz Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=XBMC
|date=2011-03-13
|state=beta
|version=0.0
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Media player
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/57106-xbmc-media-center/page__view__findpost__p__942955 Discussion]. Functions as "entertainment hub".
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/xbmc.pnd Download]
}}
{{software_item
|name=XFE
|date=2010-07-20
|state=
|version=1.32.1
|authors=Maxim Baranov, Roland Baudin, packaged by sebt3
|category=System - file manager, packager<br/>Graphics - image viewer<br/>Office - notepad
|notes=
|archive=[http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi?0,0,0,0,116,163 Archive]
}}
{{software_item
|name=Xournal
|date=2010-10-03
|state=
|version=
|authors=sebt3 (port)
|category=Office - journal
|notes=[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56864-xournal/ Discussion]. Can annotate PDFs.
|archive=[http://sebt3.openpandora.org/pnd/xournal.pnd Download]
}}
|}

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2011-04-25T21:17:48Z

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2011-04-24T14:57:08Z

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2011-04-24T14:39:52Z

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2011-04-24T14:30:37Z

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{{IntroNote | This Wiki is an unofficial community project, and Open Pandora Ltd. is not responsible for its content. Neither is the Wiki an official source of information about your device. <br/>We can always use more help, look [[Getting_involved#The_Wiki | here]] to find out how you can get involved.}}

{{split section|Page to large, bad for categories, linking topics,....}}

[[Image:PandoraFront.jpg|Right|thumb|360px|The Pandora.]]
So your Pandora just arrived after being in the post for two months. Jolly good! But now that it's actually here, what on earth do you do with it? '''Don't panic!''' Let's take a look at what's included in the box (so you don't miss anything!) and then hop on over to setting it up for that extended Ms. Pacman marathon you've been waiting for!

Also, don't forget to hit up [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/forum/61-pandora/ GP32X] for questions/info/apps/fun/discussion! Ask on the [http://boards.openpandora.org/ Official Open Pandora forum] if you want a definitive answer.

If you find a problem which is not explained after visiting the forum, be sure to report it in the [http://bugs.openpandora.org/ Bug Tracker]

== Safety Information ==
{{warning
|Choking Hazard, do not let '''children''' under the age of 3 come close to your Pandora console.<br>The Pandora contains small parts that can be eaten by those children.
}}

{{warning
|The [[battery]] of Pandora must be charged by the [[charger]] included with the Pandora (see package contents). [http://www.open-pandora.org/ Open Pandora Ltd.] will not be responsible for damage arising from the use of third party chargers. Please be aware that "cheap" third party chargers often carry fake CE logos. These can damage your Pandora or burst horribly into FLAMES.
}}

{{warning
|Keep the Pandora in normal temperatures under 140F/60C (Recommended temperatures are in the range between -10C and 40C){{Citation needed}}. The [[battery]] is a standard Lithium Polymer battery. Do not keep near fire or water. Do not disassemble, destroy or damage the battery, or it may explode! Do not short circuit external contacts! Dispose of it properly, please.
}}

{{warning
|Modifications to [[hardware]] ([[Hardware hacking]]) can damage your Pandora. [http://www.open-pandora.org/ Open Pandora Ltd] cannot be held responsible for any resulting damages that occur from you modifying your Pandora.
}}

{{warning
|Malicious software can do horrible things to your Pandora. Only download Pandora software from trusted locations such as the [http://apps.openpandora.org Pandora Apps] website, the [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi Pandora File Archive], or the websites of trusted developers.
}}

{{warning
|The Pandora has a 4.3-inch [[touch screen]]. You can touch the screen to trigger an action. That's right, a touch screen - '''not a stab screen''', punch screen, or solid mahogany workbench. Always touch the screen gently – that is more than enough to trigger the action you want.
}}

{{warning
|The casing of the Pandora has been designed for maximum strength, making it quite hard to break. Please do not consider this a challenge. Do '''not drop, throw, clamp, launch, tumble dry''', or place anvils on the Pandora. This will void your warranty.
}}

== Warranty Information ==
A one year warranty applies as required by law, and the device will be replaced/repaired if it is faulty. LCDs with numerous/excessive dead pixels will also be replaced.{{Citation needed}}

== Box Contents ==
When you first open Pandora's box, a slew of demons and raging emotions may forcibly leave the box. This is normal. After that, you should find the following items:
*Pandora console
*[[Stylus]] (located in stylus slot on the side of the Pandora)
*[[Battery]]
*Mains power adapter ([[charger]])
*[[Battery case]] (note: it can be difficult to open. [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/963-complain-about-battery-case-here/ Here] is how to do it)
The following items should also be present if you ordered them separately:
*[[TV-Out Cable]] (As of 3rd November 2010 these are not yet included in the box and will ship separately as available)
*[[Carrying Case]]
*Extra Battery
After you take those things out, you may find a sliver of Hope left over. It's best to keep it, as you never know when you could use some Hope.

== Specifications ==
==== Highlights ====
{{citation needed}}
* [[ARM]]® Cortex™-A8 600Mhz+ CPU running [[Linux]]*
* 430-MHz [[TMS320C64x+]]™ DSP Core
* PowerVR SGX [[OpenGL 2.0 ES]] compliant 3D hardware
* 800x480 4.3" 16.7 million colours [[touchscreen]] LCD
* [[Wifi]] 802.11b/g, [[Bluetooth]] & High Speed [[USB]] 2.0 Host
* Dual [[SDHC card]] slots & SVideo [[TV output]]
* Dual Analogue and Digital gaming controls ([[nubs]])
* 43 button QWERTY and numeric [[keypad]]
* Around 10+ Hours battery life**

:<small><nowiki>*</nowiki>The 600Mhz+ can be clocked higher or lower. This can be controlled by software designed for the device.</small>
:<small><nowiki>**</nowiki>Is affected by use. (For example, turning Wi-Fi off will give better battery life.)</small>

==== Advanced Specifications ====
* Texas Instruments [[OMAP3530]] processor at 600MHz (officially)
* 256MB DDR-333 [[SDRAM]]
* 512MB [[NAND]] FLASH memory
* [[IVA2+]] audio and video processor using TI's DaVinci™ technology (430MHz C64x DSP)
* [[ARM]]® Cortex™-A8 superscalar microprocessor core
* PowerVR [[SGX530]] (110MHz officially) OpenGL ES 2.0 compliant 3D hardware
* integrated [[Wifi]] 802.11b/g (up to 18dBm output)
* integrated [[Bluetooth]] 2.0 + EDR (3Mbps) (Class 2, + 4dBm)
* 800x480 resolution LTPS [[LCD]] with resistive touch screen, 4.3" widescreen, 16.7 million colors (300 cd/m2 brightness, 450:1 contrast ratio)
* Dual analog controllers ([[nubs]])
* Full [[gamepad]] controls plus [[shoulder buttons]]
* Dual [[SDHC card]] slots (up to 64GB of storage currently)
* headphone output up to 150mW/channel into 16 ohms, 99dB SNR (up to 24 bit/48KHz)
* [[TV output]] (composite and S-Video)
* Internal microphone plus ability to connect external microphone through headset
* Stereo line level inputs and outputs
* 43 button QWERTY and numeric [[keypad]]
* [[USB]] 2.0 OTG port (1.5/12/480Mbps) with capability to charge device
* [[USB]] 2.0 HOST port (480Mbps) capable of providing the full 500mA to attached devices (examples include USB memory, keyboard, mouse, 3G modem, GPS)
* up to two externally accessible [[UARTs]] and/or four [[PWM]] signals for [[hardware hacking]], robot control, debugging, etc.
* un-brickable design with integrated [[boot loader]] for safe code experimentation
* Power and hold [[switch]] useful for "instant on" and key lockout to aid in media player applications on the go
* Runs on the Linux [[operating system]] (2.6.x)
* Dimensions: 140x83.4x27.5mm
* Weight: 335g (with 4200mAh battery)

==== Features ====
The Pandora is a mixture between a PC and a gaming console (similar to classic computers such as the Amiga). That's why it has gaming controls (ABXY buttons, [[d-pad]], and [[analogue nubs]]). It is fast enough to emulate many other systems, run a full desktop, access the internet with Firefox and play games such as Quake III. However, it is not as big as a netbook. Believe it or not, it will fit in your pocket. It's a bit bigger than the original Nintendo DS. (See the [[#Applications | Applications]] section of this manual to see what applications your Pandora will come with.)
Remember that your Pandora console will get better with every application installed!

== First Time Use ==
Now that you've opened the box, let's set this thing up! Place the battery inside the battery compartment on the back of the Pandora, making sure the contacts touch(the little silvery metal bits, it's easy). Snap on the battery cover and you're all set!
If you find this [[linux]] stuff is a bit new and overwhelming, please try the [[Quickstart | quickstart page]] for a simple walk through the first steps (including downloading the codec pack) and please provide feedback on the forums about how it can be improved and still kept simple.
==== Charging ====
Charge your Pandora 8 hours before disconnecting it from the wall [[charger]]. This will improve the lifetime of your battery. To charge the Pandora, insert the power cable end in the Pandora and the other end into your wall socket.

The [[battery]] comes pre-charged at 40%, and that level might have decreased during shipping. To be on the safe side, we recommend that you charge the Pandora before you use it. Simply plug in your wall charger into an outlet, or optionally use a mini-[[USB]] cable connected to a computer or wall adapter. For extreme silliness, plug your Pandora into an ''already charged Pandora,'' and charge it from that! But not really.

To "fast charge" just put the system into "low-power" mode. You cannot charge the system while ''off''. This is currently a feature and may change in future versions of the firmware.

You can find more useful information about charging on the [[power modes]] page.

{{warning
|IF YOU POWERED THE SYSTEM WITHOUT A BATTERY, SHUT IT OFF BEFORE STICKING THE BATTERY BACK IN.
}}

Finally, don't just leave your Pandora plugged in forever. Unplug it once every couple days while using it to allow the battery to discharge from full (to around 90% or less?). If you're not going to use your Pandora for a while, discharge the [[battery]] to around 40%, remove the battery, wrap it in a plastic bag (a Ziplock-type bag?), and stick it in the fridge.

Leaving your Pandora plugged in indefinitely, even while in low-power mode, may damage the battery! See the [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/640-warning-dont-leave-your-pandora-plugged-in-for-too-long/|the Open Pandora Boards] for more details.

==== First Boot ====
Once your Pandora is ready, turn it on. The OS will take some time to [[boot up]] for the first time (about 10 minutes, this is only for the first boot, and is normal). After it has booted, a series of settings dialogs will pop up in the shape of a "Boot Wizard" allowing you to alter your Pandora's settings to your liking.

There are a total of 3 parts to the [[First Boot Wizard]] guide:
===== System configuration =====
The first thing you will have to do is to calibrate the Pandora's [[touch screen]]. Only do this if the screen isn't calibrated already.
You will have the option for touchscreen calibration the first time you boot up your Pandora console.

Note: "Calibrating the touch screen" is a term used to describe the process of matching coordinates given by the touch layer with the underlying screen. A badly calibrated screen will register your push elsewhere on the screen, perhaps half a centimeter to one side. As there are sometimes slight variations in the production of the touch layer, you the user can improve the accuracy by matching the two layers manually.

===== User setup =====
After calibrating your screen, you will have to enter your full name. This is what you will see in any user selection dialogs or when the system needs to address you, so enter whatever you are most comfortable with. Then follows your username. It is recommended to choose an all-lowercase, one-word username here, since you will have to enter this name every time you log in. Once you've entered your username, a password input dialog appears. You will have to enter the password you want to use twice here. If you don't want to have a password for your device, simply leave both fields empty. If, however, you decide to enter a password, something hard to guess and between 8 and 16 characters long is preferred.

===== Network and security settings =====
You will now have to enter a name for your Pandora. This will be the Pandora's host name, so you have two options in this situation:

# If you don't have a domain you want to connect to, simply enter any name here. It should not contain any spaces.
# If you ''do'' have a domain you want to connect to, enter a name in the form of "pandoraname.domainname.tld". Note that you may never have a use for this.

Then, you'll have to choose whether you want to automatically log in on your Pandora when it boots, or if you should be given the opportunity to log in as a different user, or enter your password. It is recommended to disable auto login if you want to protect your user data, but if you're often in a hurry, then you can enable auto login here.

The final thing you will have to choose, is whether you want to use the full desktop [[Xfce]] environment or the gaming-oriented [[PMenu]] environment as your default environment in the Pandora. It is recommended to choose Xfce here if you want to gain access to the Pandora's full potential. This option can be changed later at any point.

==== Calibrating the Analog Nubs [http://pandorawiki.org/Nubs]====

The nubs automatically [[calibrate]] with use, and do so every time the unit is freshly powered up. Calibration information is stored inside the nub RAM, so when you power down (full power off, not just low power mode) the calibration information is lost. Calibrating the nubs is as simple as just using them -- do a few left right up down moves or swoosh around, and the nub will know its boundaries and be good thereafter.

So no special effort is required to calibrate or use the nubs, but the first few motions you use of them may be erratic as they self-calibrate.

==== Calibrating the Touchscreen ====
The [[touchscreen]] in your new Pandora device isn't psychic! You have to tell it what to do, and in order to do that effectively, you need to calibrate it. Simply navigate to settings→screen→calibration wizard{{Verify credibility}} and follow the onscreen instructions. You may have to recalibrate the screen from time to time as well.

During the first boot wizard, you will be offered the option to calibrate the touchscreen. By default it may well work okay, but the option is there. If calibration is far off, use the keyboard to select the calibration option.

==== Mouse (stylus/pointer) settings ====
When done with the calibration and you are back in the Pandora [[Xfce]] desktop environment you might also want to change some other touch screen settings to make navigation with the stylus work according to your preferences. Two recommended settings to experiment with for easier navigation are:

# The double-click Time setting
# The double-click Distance (valid touch-screen double-click area)

In the first setting, i.e. Time, you will be setting the interval between double-clicks where such clicks will be accepted as valid.
Ex. if you set the time to 250ms, the second click (or screen-tap in our case) must occur within 250ms of the first to be valid.

In the second setting, Distance, you will be setting the radius of screen area where the second click (tap) must fall into to be considered as a valid second tap. This means that if, for example, you set the distance to 5, your second tap must fall within a circle radius of 5 pixels from the point where the first tap occurred.

These two settings can be found under: Desktop ---> Xfce menu ---> Settings ---> Mouse ---> Behaviour tab.

== Basic Use ==
See the [[GUI]] page for more details on the user interfaces which can be used with the Pandora.

===Pmenu===

===minimenu / mmenu===

[[minimenu]] is designed as a fast and easy to use launcher, without a lot of fancy frills. A grid of icons to launch, and use the d-pad or touchscreen to fire one off. It is fairly configurable and skinnable and is fully featured, and very fast. If you recall the interface on the gp32, gp2x, wiz, and gmenu2x you will be right at home and then some!

=====The main grid=====

The main grid with the default [[skin]] has most of the screen realestate showing a grid of available 'auto discovered' applications, with a detail panel on the right. A list of tabs is across the top of the screen, with some short help message on the bottom.

Pressing Start or B will invoke the [[pnd]]-application. Pressing Select will switch to a basic menu, providing shutdown or some advanced options.

Pressing "Y" (think "Why?") will bring up pnd-application documentation, if that [[pnd]]-file has defined any.

The left and right shoulder triggers will switch categories of applications; by default, minimenu includes an All category and defaults to showing it.

The applications are auto-discovered in the same means as the xfce desktop and pmenu and other pnd-supporting systems, however you may add additional minimenu-specific searchpaths into the configuration should you wish to. It is likely a basic file browser will also be added, letting you launch applications manually placed on your SD cards.

The standard overrides are supported -- [[.ovr]] files for icon title, clockspeed setting and categories, as well as a [[.pnd]] for icon override.

=====Skinning=====

Skinning guide in gp32x forum: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/53990-skinning-minimenu/

A mmskin.conf from February 2011: http://git.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=pandora-libraries.git;a=blob;f=minimenu/skin/default/mmskin.conf;h=695888b3ae310d7ea04b4e682baed0c0c6fc4349;hb=98c1d081629ac9cbb3056b39097a3db968ce4055

===Desktop style environment (Xfce)===

=====On the Desktop=====

The desktop will contain icons for numerous locations (such as each mounted SD card), as well as any auto-discovered pnd-applications located on SD cards or internal [[NAND]].

=====In the menu=====
On the bottom left you have your applications menu, similar to the Windows start menu. Clicking it brings up a list of all installed applications and pnd-applications in the appropriate location on your [[SD cards]].

=====Miscellaneous=====
To the right may be some icons, these serve as shortcuts to commonly used applications. Next to that you have your taskbar which, as you might have guessed, lists all running applications in your current workspace. To the right of the taskbar you have your workspaces, think of these as multiple desktops. By default you have two to switch between. Applications running in one workspace will not be visible in the other, so you can effectively hide your Ms. Pacman game from your boss at work, because there's no way you're not going to go for the gold, even at work! Finally there are a few more icons that deal with TV-Out, network connectivity, etc. and some running applications may place an icon there as well. And to the right of THOSE, you have your time. Because time flies when you're using your Pandora! Badum tsh. And to the right of that, you have a little icon which, when clicked, displays all running applications.

Finally, I'd just like to reiterate this--EVERYTHING is customizable! We'll get to that section later on.

If a window is too tall to fit on the screen you can move it by holding down the left [[shoulder button]] and dragging the window with the [[stylus]].

===Pandora Button===

When in the desktop style environment ([[Xfce]]), the Pandora button will bring up the applications menu, letting you quickly view the available applications. If held, it allows you to [[User_manual#Killing Applications | kill]] an unresponsive application. If that doesn't work, you can do a hard-reset of the Pandora by pressing and holding the Pandora button, then flicking the power switch to the right.

===Power modes===

The [[Power modes]] page provides full details of power modes, charging and battery care and lifetime.

Without switching the device entirely off, it may be placed into low power mode or regular power mode; simply sliding the power switch to the right will toggle modes.

Consider low power mode to be akin to turning off a PDA or cellphone -- the screen is off, the CPU is clocked down and so on, but the device is still silently on, allowing for alarms to go off or it to be turned on again instantly. Regular power mode is for normal usage.

Low power mode is probably going to be used as the normal "off" for most people, with true off (device powered down entirely, unable to respond to alarms or wake up quickly) available to conserve battery power. Turning the Pandora off completely is the best option if you don't plan on using it for few weeks or longer.

Closing the lid will turn off the [[display]] but otherwise leave the device operating - handy for audio playing; turning off the display reduces power consumption.

Shutdown will only occur if you are unplugged from the wall. The device can't be charged while off, to "fast charge" just switch to low power mode. See [[Power modes | power modes]] for more info.

The actual behavior of buttons and events can be customized.

=== USB Peripherals ===
You can connect USB2 High Speed peripherals directly, using the large USB connector, or a USB-OTG adaptor lead. Lower-speed USB devices will only work through a hub, the Pandora does not have the support circuitry inside to drive the interface in the correct mode.
See the [[USB_compatibility_list|the USB compatibility list]] for peripherals which have been tested so far.

=== Killing Applications ===
Killing (or forcibly closing) an unresponsive application is as simple as holding down the [[Pandora button]] (just under start and select) for a few seconds. A dialog will appear which lists the open applications and gives you the option to kill them.

=== Forcing a Restart ===
Occasionally something will happen causing your Pandora to become unresponsive (to the point that even killing a program isn't possible). When this happens it is necessary to force your Pandora to restart. The easiest way to do this is by holding the Pandora button and moving the power switch to the right.

== Configuration and Customization ==
This is just an overview of the [[customization]] and configuration you can do. Individual sections may link to their own pages.

=== Setting Up WiFi ===
If [[wifi]] is enabled, and you are in range of an access point, a dialogue should appear offering to connect to it. See the [[Wifi]] page for more detail on using wifi.

=== Setting Up Bluetooth ===
Connecting to [[Bluetooth]] devices is easy using the tool located in the Xfce taskbar.

For help with setting up a [[Bluetooth]] GPS, see [[GPS#Bluetooth_GPS | here]].

=== Adjusting Brightness/Contrast ===
Brightness can be raised by pressing Fn+I and lowered with Fn+U. A tool is included with the Pandora called "LCD-Settings" (under the "Settings" menu) which can be used to adjust the brightness and the gamma.

=== Changing Your Theme ===
Under "Settings" in the menu, you will find "Appearance" which will let you adjust the style, icon set, fonts, and a few other appearance related settings. Also, under "Window Manager" you can adjust the style of each window's title bar.

=== Minimenu Configuration and Tricks ===

[[minimenu]] has a fairly comprehensive configuration file for its minimalistic design; most options may be enabled or disabled or fiddled with, and the skin can reasonably be altered.

The All category can be removed if undesired.

Expert conf hackers can specify what categories they'd like and in what order, and have multiple app categories dumped into one tab, and other tricks.

pnd-application icons may be all loaded during the menu setup, or deferred until later and loaded in the background.

Preview pics may be loaded up front (not advised, as it can be slow), or deferred until later. (When deferred, they may load when you rest the selection, or load in background.)

You may choose to have auto-discovered applications registered into any of their 6 categories (Main, Sub1, Sub2, Alt, AltSub1, AltSub2).

Etc and so on.

Additional keys are supported: Q to quit the menu (not really useful for most people), and Space to invoke the application.

[[Minimenu Configuration Documentation]]

== Applications ==

Many applications will come preinstalled into the internal [[NAND]]; these will be regular Linux applications (not packaged into [[pnd]] files, since they do not need to be redistributed to anyone.)

Additional applications may be found as [[Introduction to PNDs | pnd-files]] (a packaged up single file representing an entire application) or as regular Linux files (an application likely being made up of many files and possibly needing installation.)

==== What Is Included? ====
* [[Ångström]] Linux: Lightweight beautiful Linux-based operating system for the Pandora.
* [[Xfce]]: A full featured window manager for Linux.
* [[Midori]]: A full featured web browser, designed to be lighter and faster than a full desktop style browser.
* Lightweight office utilities including like GCalcTool
{{Volume needed}}

==== Where Can I Get More Apps? ====
There are many ways to get more applications onto your Pandora.

*On this wiki, we maintain up-to-date lists of [[games]], [[Emulator list|emulators]], and [[Software projects|other software]], with download links. These lists are more comprehensive than the two official sites below, because not every program is submitted to both of them.

*To help with the massive range of applications, a member of the community has started to produce [[PandaPacks]] for some pre-packaged games, emulators and distributable ROMs in handy SD card filling torrents.

*The easiest way is to browse the [http://apps.open-pandora.org Open App Store], where you can download a selection of free or commercial applications. To download, navigate to an app, pay for it if you must, and hit the 'download' button. Select where you want to save it, and you're done!

*There is the good ol' [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi Pandora File Archive].

*There are nice repositories, such as the [http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo Angstrom ARM Repository], or...

*The Pandora includes the package manager [[opkg]], which is a fork of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipkg ipkg]. Note this will install to [[NAND]] by default, so should be used with great caution. Type "df -h" into the terminal to see how much space you have left.

*Also, people may upload their apps to weird crevices in the net, so be on the lookout! (or use a search engine)

{{warning|Your Pandora's internal memory (NAND) will be at close to capacity when you receive it. All new programs '''should be installed to SD card'''. Downloads from the Angstrom Repo, or use of the [[opkg]] package manager, should only be done by advanced users or when instructed by Open Pandora Ltd (for example, firmware updates will probably use a pandora specific repository in the future).''</div>

==== Installing a PND file (an application) ====
[[Image:PandoraSD.png|thumb|alt=SD card folder structure|This is what the folder structure on your SD card should look like. The drive letter and card name will vary; they're not important.]]
Installation of a PND file is so easy, you can hardly even call it installing. All you need to do is copy the PND file into the appropriate folder on your SD card. The first thing you'll need to do is set up some folders that the Pandora will recognise. It's recommended that you start with a blank, freshly formatted (or freshly purchased) SD card. For the purposes of this guide we'll refer to your [[SD card]] as <SD>. (Windows might call it something like G:\Removable Disk.) Create a new folder on the SD card called 'pandora':
*<SD>/pandora
Then open the 'pandora' folder, and create four more inside it: apps, appdata, desktop, and menu:
*<SD>/pandora/apps
*<SD>/pandora/appdata/
*<SD>/pandora/desktop/
*<SD>/pandora/menu/
Now you're ready to install a PND file. Just copy and paste (or drag and drop) (or save) the file into your folder of choice:
* Putting a PND in the /desktop folder will make it appear on the [[XFCE]] desktop
* Putting a PND in the /menu folder will make it appear in the [[XFCE]] system menu
* Putting a PND in the /apps folder will make it appear in both locations
* If you're using [[Minimenu]] instead of XFCE, it doesn't matter which of these three folders you use
Occasionally you'll come across an application which needs additional data (for example, the data files for Quake, or ROMs for an emulator). These files goes into the appdata folder. A [[PND]] program will automatically create its own subfolder within /appdata the first time it is run; then you can add files to it. More information on this is available on the [[Introduction_to_PNDs#Where_does_my_data_go.3F_How_do_I_make_files_visible_to_the_applications.3F | introduction to PNDs]] page.

== Firmware ==
For more detail about firmware, see the [[Introduction to firmware]] page.

==== Updating The Firmware ====

Updates to the firmware are currently provided as [[Hotfix]] packages, in [[Introduction to PNDs |PND]] format. Check the OpenPandora official [http://www.open-pandora.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=178&Itemid=32&lang=en support] page for the latest status. This will update any parts of the system which need to be updated. A more flexible system is planned, this should allow automatic downloading and installing of updates if you wish (but should not be expected before some time in 2011).

==== Replacing the Firmware ====

There are several reasons why you might wish to take this seemingly drastic step. It is possible that the system software gets corrupted somehow (for example, a power failure whilst you are completing the 'first boot' process). Alternatively, you might wish to install a copy of the firmware on an SD card if you are experimenting with different system configurations. Regardless, the Pandora is very robust, it is always possible to download some files to the SD card, and use these to return the internal [[NAND]] to the 'factory' state without too much effort. See the [[Introduction to firmware]] page for information on how to do this.

== Pandora FAQ ==
Silly goose, go to the [[FAQ]] page for more detailed information.

==Futher reading==
* [[Basic Linux Guide]] - For those who don't know very much about Linux and want to learn more.
* [[Minimenu Configuration Documentation]] - If you want to customize or configure Minimenu.
* [[Tutorials]]
* [[Emulator list]] - See what systems you can emulate.
* [[Games]] - Take a look at the games that are available.
* [[Software projects]] - A list of all non-emulator, non-game software for Pandora.

[[Category:Documentation]]

User manual

2011-04-24T10:54:19Z

ABC: /* First Time Use */ formating

{{IntroNote | This Wiki is an unofficial community project, and Open Pandora Ltd. is not responsible for its content. Neither is the Wiki an official source of information about your device. <br/>We can always use more help, look [[Getting_involved#The_Wiki | here]] to find out how you can get involved.}}

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[[Image:PandoraFront.jpg|Right|thumb|360px|The Pandora.]]
So your Pandora just arrived after being in the post for two months. Jolly good! But now that it's actually here, what on earth do you do with it? '''Don't panic!''' Let's take a look at what's included in the box (so you don't miss anything!) and then hop on over to setting it up for that extended Ms. Pacman marathon you've been waiting for!

Also, don't forget to hit up [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/forum/61-pandora/ GP32X] for questions/info/apps/fun/discussion! Ask on the [http://boards.openpandora.org/ Official Open Pandora forum] if you want a definitive answer.

If you find a problem which is not explained after visiting the forum, be sure to report it in the [http://bugs.openpandora.org/ Bug Tracker]

== Safety Information ==
{{warning
|Choking Hazard, do not let '''children''' under the age of 3 come close to your Pandora console.<br>The Pandora contains small parts that can be eaten by those children.
}}

{{warning
|The [[battery]] of Pandora must be charged by the [[charger]] included with the Pandora (see package contents). [http://www.open-pandora.org/ Open Pandora Ltd.] will not be responsible for damage arising from the use of third party chargers. Please be aware that "cheap" third party chargers often carry fake CE logos. These can damage your Pandora or burst horribly into FLAMES.
}}

{{warning
|Keep the Pandora in normal temperatures under 140F/60C (Recommended temperatures are in the range between -10C and 40C){{Citation needed}}. The [[battery]] is a standard Lithium Polymer battery. Do not keep near fire or water. Do not disassemble, destroy or damage the battery, or it may explode! Do not short circuit external contacts! Dispose of it properly, please.
}}

{{warning
|Modifications to [[hardware]] ([[Hardware hacking]]) can damage your Pandora. [http://www.open-pandora.org/ Open Pandora Ltd] cannot be held responsible for any resulting damages that occur from you modifying your Pandora.
}}

{{warning
|Malicious software can do horrible things to your Pandora. Only download Pandora software from trusted locations such as the [http://apps.openpandora.org Pandora Apps] website, the [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi Pandora File Archive], or the websites of trusted developers.
}}

{{warning
|The Pandora has a 4.3-inch [[touch screen]]. You can touch the screen to trigger an action. That's right, a touch screen - '''not a stab screen''', punch screen, or solid mahogany workbench. Always touch the screen gently – that is more than enough to trigger the action you want.
}}

{{warning
|The casing of the Pandora has been designed for maximum strength, making it quite hard to break. Please do not consider this a challenge. Do '''not drop, throw, clamp, launch, tumble dry''', or place anvils on the Pandora. This will void your warranty.
}}

== Warranty Information ==
A one year warranty applies as required by law, and the device will be replaced/repaired if it is faulty. LCDs with numerous/excessive dead pixels will also be replaced.{{Citation needed}}

== Box Contents ==
When you first open Pandora's box, a slew of demons and raging emotions may forcibly leave the box. This is normal. After that, you should find the following items:
*Pandora console
*[[Stylus]] (located in stylus slot on the side of the Pandora)
*[[Battery]]
*Mains power adapter ([[charger]])
*[[Battery case]] (note: it can be difficult to open. [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/963-complain-about-battery-case-here/ Here] is how to do it)
The following items should also be present if you ordered them separately:
*[[TV-Out Cable]] (As of 3rd November 2010 these are not yet included in the box and will ship separately as available)
*[[Carrying Case]]
*Extra Battery
After you take those things out, you may find a sliver of Hope left over. It's best to keep it, as you never know when you could use some Hope.

== Specifications ==
==== Highlights ====
{{citation needed}}
* [[ARM]]® Cortex™-A8 600Mhz+ CPU running [[Linux]]*
* 430-MHz [[TMS320C64x+]]™ DSP Core
* PowerVR SGX [[OpenGL 2.0 ES]] compliant 3D hardware
* 800x480 4.3" 16.7 million colours [[touchscreen]] LCD
* [[Wifi]] 802.11b/g, [[Bluetooth]] & High Speed [[USB]] 2.0 Host
* Dual [[SDHC card]] slots & SVideo [[TV output]]
* Dual Analogue and Digital gaming controls ([[nubs]])
* 43 button QWERTY and numeric [[keypad]]
* Around 10+ Hours battery life**

:<small><nowiki>*</nowiki>The 600Mhz+ can be clocked higher or lower. This can be controlled by software designed for the device.</small>
:<small><nowiki>**</nowiki>Is affected by use. (For example, turning Wi-Fi off will give better battery life.)</small>

==== Advanced Specifications ====
* Texas Instruments [[OMAP3530]] processor at 600MHz (officially)
* 256MB DDR-333 [[SDRAM]]
* 512MB [[NAND]] FLASH memory
* [[IVA2+]] audio and video processor using TI's DaVinci™ technology (430MHz C64x DSP)
* [[ARM]]® Cortex™-A8 superscalar microprocessor core
* PowerVR [[SGX530]] (110MHz officially) OpenGL ES 2.0 compliant 3D hardware
* integrated [[Wifi]] 802.11b/g (up to 18dBm output)
* integrated [[Bluetooth]] 2.0 + EDR (3Mbps) (Class 2, + 4dBm)
* 800x480 resolution LTPS [[LCD]] with resistive touch screen, 4.3" widescreen, 16.7 million colors (300 cd/m2 brightness, 450:1 contrast ratio)
* Dual analog controllers ([[nubs]])
* Full [[gamepad]] controls plus [[shoulder buttons]]
* Dual [[SDHC card]] slots (up to 64GB of storage currently)
* headphone output up to 150mW/channel into 16 ohms, 99dB SNR (up to 24 bit/48KHz)
* [[TV output]] (composite and S-Video)
* Internal microphone plus ability to connect external microphone through headset
* Stereo line level inputs and outputs
* 43 button QWERTY and numeric [[keypad]]
* [[USB]] 2.0 OTG port (1.5/12/480Mbps) with capability to charge device
* [[USB]] 2.0 HOST port (480Mbps) capable of providing the full 500mA to attached devices (examples include USB memory, keyboard, mouse, 3G modem, GPS)
* up to two externally accessible [[UARTs]] and/or four [[PWM]] signals for [[hardware hacking]], robot control, debugging, etc.
* un-brickable design with integrated [[boot loader]] for safe code experimentation
* Power and hold [[switch]] useful for "instant on" and key lockout to aid in media player applications on the go
* Runs on the Linux [[operating system]] (2.6.x)
* Dimensions: 140x83.4x27.5mm
* Weight: 335g (with 4200mAh battery)

==== Features ====
The Pandora is a mixture between a PC and a gaming console (similar to classic computers such as the Amiga). That's why it has gaming controls (ABXY buttons, [[d-pad]], and [[analogue nubs]]). It is fast enough to emulate many other systems, run a full desktop, access the internet with Firefox and play games such as Quake III. However, it is not as big as a netbook. Believe it or not, it will fit in your pocket. It's a bit bigger than the original Nintendo DS. (See the [[#Applications | Applications]] section of this manual to see what applications your Pandora will come with.)
Remember that your Pandora console will get better with every application installed!

== First Time Use ==
Now that you've opened the box, let's set this thing up! Place the battery inside the battery compartment on the back of the Pandora, making sure the contacts touch(the little silvery metal bits, it's easy). Snap on the battery cover and you're all set!
If you find this [[linux]] stuff is a bit new and overwhelming, please try the [[Quickstart | quickstart page]] for a simple walk through the first steps (including downloading the codec pack) and please provide feedback on the forums about how it can be improved and still kept simple.
==== Charging ====
Charge your Pandora 8 hours before disconnecting it from the wall [[charger]]. This will improve the lifetime of your battery. To charge the Pandora, insert the power cable end in the Pandora and the other end into your wall socket.

The [[battery]] comes pre-charged at 40%, and that level might have decreased during shipping. To be on the safe side, we recommend that you charge the Pandora before you use it. Simply plug in your wall charger into an outlet, or optionally use a mini-[[USB]] cable connected to a computer or wall adapter. For extreme silliness, plug your Pandora into an ''already charged Pandora,'' and charge it from that! But not really.

To "fast charge" just put the system into "low-power" mode. You cannot charge the system while ''off''. This is currently a feature and may change in future versions of the firmware.

You can find more useful information about charging on the [[power modes]] page.

{{warning
|IF YOU POWERED THE SYSTEM WITHOUT A BATTERY, SHUT IT OFF BEFORE STICKING THE BATTERY BACK IN.
}}

Finally, don't just leave your Pandora plugged in forever. Unplug it once every couple days while using it to allow the battery to discharge from full (to around 90% or less?). If you're not going to use your Pandora for a while, discharge the [[battery]] to around 40%, remove the battery, wrap it in a plastic bag (a Ziplock-type bag?), and stick it in the fridge.

Leaving your Pandora plugged in indefinitely, even while in low-power mode, may damage the battery! See the [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/640-warning-dont-leave-your-pandora-plugged-in-for-too-long/|the Open Pandora Boards] for more details.

==== First Boot ====
Once your Pandora is ready, turn it on. The OS will take some time to [[boot up]] for the first time (about 10 minutes, this is only for the first boot, and is normal). After it has booted, a series of settings dialogs will pop up in the shape of a "Boot Wizard" allowing you to alter your Pandora's settings to your liking.

There are a total of 3 parts to the Boot Wizard guide:
===== System configuration =====
The first thing you will have to do is to calibrate the Pandora's touch screen. Only do this if the screen isn't calibrated already.
You will have the option for touchscreen calibration the first time you boot up your Pandora console.

Note: "Calibrating the touch screen" is a term used to describe the process of matching coordinates given by the touch layer with the underlying screen. A badly calibrated screen will register your push elsewhere on the screen, perhaps half a centimeter to one side. As there are sometimes slight variations in the production of the touch layer, you the user can improve the accuracy by matching the two layers manually.

===== User setup =====
After calibrating your screen, you will have to enter your full name. This is what you will see in any user selection dialogs or when the system needs to address you, so enter whatever you are most comfortable with. Then follows your username. It is recommended to choose an all-lowercase, one-word username here, since you will have to enter this name every time you log in. Once you've entered your username, a password input dialog appears. You will have to enter the password you want to use twice here. If you don't want to have a password for your device, simply leave both fields empty. If, however, you decide to enter a password, something hard to guess and between 8 and 16 characters long is preferred.

===== Network and security settings =====
You will now have to enter a name for your Pandora. This will be the Pandora's host name, so you have two options in this situation:

# If you don't have a domain you want to connect to, simply enter any name here. It should not contain any spaces.
# If you ''do'' have a domain you want to connect to, enter a name in the form of "pandoraname.domainname.tld". Note that you may never have a use for this.

Then, you'll have to choose whether you want to automatically log in on your Pandora when it boots, or if you should be given the opportunity to log in as a different user, or enter your password. It is recommended to disable auto login if you want to protect your user data, but if you're often in a hurry, then you can enable auto login here.

The final thing you will have to choose, is whether you want to use the full desktop Xfce environment or the gaming-oriented PMenu environment as your default environment in the Pandora. It is recommended to choose Xfce here if you want to gain access to the Pandora's full potential. This option can be changed later at any point.

==== Calibrating the Analog Nubs [http://pandorawiki.org/Nubs]====

The nubs automatically calibrate with use, and do so every time the unit is freshly powered up. Calibration information is stored inside the nub RAM, so when you power down (full power off, not just low power mode) the calibration information is lost. Calibrating the nubs is as simple as just using them -- do a few left right up down moves or swoosh around, and the nub will know its boundaries and be good thereafter.

So no special effort is required to calibrate or use the nubs, but the first few motions you use of them may be erratic as they self-calibrate.

==== Calibrating The Touchscreen ====
The touchscreen in your new Pandora device isn't psychic! You have to tell it what to do, and in order to do that effectively, you need to calibrate it. Simply navigate to settings→screen→calibration wizard{{Verify credibility}} and follow the onscreen instructions. You may have to recalibrate the screen from time to time as well.

During the first boot wizard, you will be offered the option to calibrate the touchscreen. By default it may well work okay, but the option is there. If calibration is far off, use the keyboard to select the calibration option.

==== Mouse (stylus/pointer) settings ====
When done with the calibration and you are back in the Pandora Xfce desktop environment you might also want to change some other touch screen settings to make navigation with the stylus work according to your preferences. Two recommended settings to experiment with for easier navigation are:

# The double-click Time setting
# The double-click Distance (valid touch-screen double-click area)

In the first setting, i.e. Time, you will be setting the interval between double-clicks where such clicks will be accepted as valid.
Ex. if you set the time to 250ms, the second click (or screen-tap in our case) must occur within 250ms of the first to be valid.

In the second setting, Distance, you will be setting the radius of screen area where the second click (tap) must fall into to be considered as a valid second tap. This means that if, for example, you set the distance to 5, your second tap must fall within a circle radius of 5 pixels from the point where the first tap occurred.

These two settings can be found under: Desktop ---> Xfce menu ---> Settings ---> Mouse ---> Behaviour tab.

== Basic Use ==
See the [[GUI]] page for more details on the user interfaces which can be used with the Pandora.

===Pmenu===

TBD.

===minimenu / mmenu===

minimenu is designed as a fast and easy to use launcher, without a lot of fancy frills. A grid of icons to launch, and use the d-pad or touchscreen to fire one off. It is fairly configurable and skinnable and is fully featured, and very fast. If you recall the interface on the gp32, gp2x, wiz, and gmenu2x you will be right at home and then some!

=====The main grid=====

The main grid with the default skin has most of the screen realestate showing a grid of available 'auto discovered' applications, with a detail panel on the right. A list of tabs is across the top of the screen, with some short help message on the bottom.

Pressing Start or B will invoke the pnd-application. Presseing Select will switch to a basic menu, providing shutdown or some advanced options.

Pressing "Y" (think "Why?") will bring up pnd-application documentation, if that pnd-file has defined any.

The left and right shoulder triggers will switch categories of applications; by default, minimenu includes an All category and defaults to showing it.

The applications are auto-discovered in the same means as the xfce desktop and pmenu and other pnd-supporting systems, however you may add additional minimenu-specific searchpaths into the configuration should you wish to. It is likely a basic file browser will also be added, letting you launch applications manually placed on your SD cards.

The standard overrides are supported -- .ovr files for icon title, clockspeed setting and categories, as well as a .pnd for icon override.

=====Skinning=====

Skinning guide in gp32x forum: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/53990-skinning-minimenu/

A mmskin.conf from February 2011: http://git.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=pandora-libraries.git;a=blob;f=minimenu/skin/default/mmskin.conf;h=695888b3ae310d7ea04b4e682baed0c0c6fc4349;hb=98c1d081629ac9cbb3056b39097a3db968ce4055

===Desktop style environment (Xfce)===

=====On the Desktop=====

The desktop will contain icons for numerous locations (such as each mounted SD card), as well as any auto-discovered pnd-applications located on SD cards or internal [[NAND]].

=====In the menu=====
On the bottom left you have your applications menu, similar to the Windows start menu. Clicking it brings up a list of all installed applications and pnd-applications in the appropriate location on your SD cards.

=====Miscellaneous=====
To the right may be some icons, these serve as shortcuts to commonly used applications. Next to that you have your taskbar which, as you might have guessed, lists all running applications in your current workspace. To the right of the taskbar you have your workspaces, think of these as multiple desktops. By default you have two to switch between. Applications running in one workspace will not be visible in the other, so you can effectively hide your Ms. Pacman game from your boss at work, because there's no way you're not going to go for the gold, even at work! Finally there are a few more icons that deal with TV-Out, network connectivity, etc. and some running applications may place an icon there as well. And to the right of THOSE, you have your time. Because time flies when you're using your Pandora! Badum tsh. And to the right of that, you have a little icon which, when clicked, displays all running applications.

Finally, I'd just like to reiterate this--EVERYTHING is customizable! We'll get to that section later on.

If a window is too tall to fit on the screen you can move it by holding down the left sholder button and dragging the window with the stylus.

===Pandora Button===

When in the desktop style environment (Xfce), the Pandora button will bring up the applications menu, letting you quickly view the available applications. If held, it allows you to [[User_manual#Killing Applications | kill]] an unresponsive application. If that doesn't work, you can do a hard-reset of the Pandora by pressing and holding the Pandora button, then flicking the power switch to the right.

===Power modes===

The [[Power modes]] page provides full details of power modes, charging and battery care and lifetime.

Without switching the device entirely off, it may be placed into low power mode or regular power mode; simply sliding the power switch to the right will toggle modes.

Consider low power mode to be akin to turning off a PDA or cellphone -- the screen is off, the CPU is clocked down and so on, but the device is still silently on, allowing for alarms to go off or it to be turned on again instantly. Regular power mode is for normal usage.

Low power mode is probably going to be used as the normal "off" for most people, with true off (device powered down entirely, unable to respond to alarms or wake up quickly) available to conserve battery power. Turning the Pandora off completely is the best option if you don't plan on using it for few weeks or longer.

Closing the lid will turn off the display but otherwise leave the device operating - handy for audio playing; turning off the display reduces power consumption.

Shutdown will only occur if you are unplugged from the wall. The device can't be charged while off, to "fast charge" just switch to low power mode. See [[Power modes | power modes]] for more info.

The actual behavior of buttons and events can be customized.

=== USB Peripherals ===
You can connect USB2 High Speed peripherals directly, using the large USB connector, or a USB-OTG adaptor lead. Lower-speed USB devices will only work through a hub, the Pandora does not have the support circuitry inside to drive the interface in the correct mode.
See the [[USB_compatibility_list|the USB compatibility list]] for peripherals which have been tested so far.

=== Killing Applications ===
Killing (or forcibly closing) an unresponsive application is as simple as holding down the Pandora button (just under start and select) for a few seconds. A dialog will appear which lists the open applications and gives you the option to kill them.

=== Forcing a Restart ===
Occasionally something will happen causing your Pandora to become unresponsive (to the point that even killing a program isn't possible). When this happens it is necessary to force your Pandora to restart. The easiest way to do this is by holding the Pandora button and moving the power switch to the right.

== Configuration and Customization ==
This is just an overview of the customization and configuration you can do. Individual sections may link to their own pages.

=== Setting Up WiFi ===
If wifi is enabled, and you are in range of an access point, a dialogue should appear offering to connect to it. See the [[Wifi]] page for more detail on using wifi.

=== Setting Up Bluetooth ===
Connecting to bluetooth devices is easy using the tool located in the Xfce taskbar.

For help with setting up a bluetooth GPS, see [[GPS#Bluetooth_GPS | here]].

See also: [[Bluetooth]]

=== Adjusting Brightness/Contrast ===
Brightness can be raised by pressing Fn+I and lowered with Fn+U. A tool is included with the Pandora called "LCD-Settings" (under the "Settings" menu) which can be used to adjust the brightness and the gamma.

=== Changing Your Theme ===
Under "Settings" in the menu, you will find "Appearance" which will let you adjust the style, icon set, fonts, and a few other appearance related settings. Also, under "Window Manager" you can adjust the style of each window's title bar.

=== Minimenu Configuration and Tricks ===

minimenu has a fairly comprehensive configuration file for its minimalistic design; most options may be enabled or disabled or fiddled with, and the skin can reasonably be altered.

The All category can be removed if undesired.

Expert conf hackers can specify what categories they'd like and in what order, and have multiple app categories dumped into one tab, and other tricks.

pnd-application icons may be all loaded during the menu setup, or deferred until later and loaded in the background.

Preview pics may be loaded up front (not advised, as it can be slow), or deferred until later. (When deferred, they may load when you rest the selection, or load in background.)

You may choose to have auto-discovered applications registered into any of their 6 categories (Main, Sub1, Sub2, Alt, AltSub1, AltSub2).

Etc and so on.

Additional keys are supported: Q to quit the menu (not really useful for most people), and Space to invoke the application.

[[Minimenu Configuration Documentation | This section contains more information.]]

== Applications ==

Many applications will come preinstalled into the internal [[NAND]]; these will be regular Linux applications (not packaged into pnd files, since they do not need to be redistributed to anyone.)

Additional applications may be found as [[Introduction to PNDs | pnd-files]] (a packaged up single file representing an entire application) or as regular Linux files (an application likely being made up of many files and possibly needing installation.)

==== What Is Included? ====
* Ångström Linux: Lightweight beautiful Linux-based operating system for the Pandora.
* Xfce: A full featured window manager for Linux.
* Midori: A full featured web browser, designed to be lighter and faster than a full desktop style browser.
* Lightweight office utilities including Abiword, Gnumeric, and ClawsMail (warning: do not use ClawsMail, it will fill up your [[NAND]]. Solutions are [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56810-html-viewer-for-claws-mail/page__view__findpost__p__919458 being worked on]). '''As of [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58867-hotfix-5-released/ Hotfix 5]''', GCalcTool is also included, while Abiword, Gnumeric, Clawsmail and Pidgin have been removed (you can download them from [[software projects|here]] instead).
{{Volume needed}}

==== Where Can I Get More Apps? ====
There are many ways to get more applications onto your Pandora.

*On this wiki, we maintain up-to-date lists of [[games]], [[Emulator list|emulators]], and [[Software projects|other software]], with download links. These lists are more comprehensive than the two official sites below, because not every program is submitted to both of them.

*To help with the massive range of applications, a member of the community has started to produce [[PandaPacks]] for some pre-packaged games, emulators and distributable ROMs in handy SD card filling torrents.

*The easiest way is to browse the [http://apps.open-pandora.org Open App Store], where you can download a selection of free or commercial applications. To download, navigate to an app, pay for it if you must, and hit the 'download' button. Select where you want to save it, and you're done!

*There is the good ol' [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi Pandora File Archive].

*There are nice repositories, such as the [http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo Angstrom ARM Repository], or...

*The Pandora includes the package manager opkg, which is a fork of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipkg ipkg]. Note this will install to [[NAND]] by default, so should be used with great caution. Type "df -h" into the terminal to see how much space you have left.

*Also, people may upload their apps to weird crevices in the net, so be on the lookout! (or use a search engine)

:<div style="border-top:1px solid gray; border-bottom:1px solid gray; padding-top:5px; padding-bottom:5px; margin-bottom:20px">''Note: Your Pandora's internal memory (NAND) will be at close to capacity when you receive it. All new programs should be installed to SD card. Downloads from the Angstrom Repo, or use of the opkg package manager, should only be done by advanced users or when instructed by Open Pandora Ltd (for example, firmware updates will probably use a pandora specific repository in the future).''</div>

==== Installing a PND file (an application) ====
[[Image:PandoraSD.png|thumb|alt=SD card folder structure|This is what the folder structure on your SD card should look like. The drive letter and card name will vary; they're not important.]]
Installation of a PND file is so easy, you can hardly even call it installing. All you need to do is copy the PND file into the appropriate folder on your SD card. The first thing you'll need to do is set up some folders that the Pandora will recognise. It's recommended that you start with a blank, freshly formatted (or freshly purchased) SD card. For the purposes of this guide we'll refer to your SD card as <SD>. (Windows might call it something like G:\Removable Disk.) Create a new folder on the SD card called 'pandora':
*<SD>/pandora
Then open the 'pandora' folder, and create four more inside it: apps, appdata, desktop, and menu:
*<SD>/pandora/apps
*<SD>/pandora/appdata/
*<SD>/pandora/desktop/
*<SD>/pandora/menu/
Now you're ready to install a PND file. Just copy and paste (or drag and drop) (or save) the file into your folder of choice:
* Putting a PND in the /desktop folder will make it appear on the XFCE desktop
* Putting a PND in the /menu folder will make it appear in the XFCE system menu
* Putting a PND in the /apps folder will make it appear in both locations
* If you're using Minimenu instead of XFCE, it doesn't matter which of these three folders you use
Occasionally you'll come across an application which needs additional data (for example, the data files for Quake, or ROMs for an emulator). These files goes into the appdata folder. A PND program will automatically create its own subfolder within /appdata the first time it is run; then you can add files to it. More information on this is available on the [[Introduction_to_PNDs#Where_does_my_data_go.3F_How_do_I_make_files_visible_to_the_applications.3F | introduction to PNDs]] page.

== Firmware ==
For more detail about firmware, see the [[Introduction to firmware]] page.

==== Updating The Firmware ====

Updates to the firmware are currently provided as Hotfix packages, in [[Introduction to PNDs |PND]] format. Check the OpenPandora official [http://www.open-pandora.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=178&Itemid=32&lang=en support] page for the latest status. This will update any parts of the system which need to be updated. A more flexible system is planned, this should allow automatic downloading and installing of updates if you wish (but should not be expected before some time in 2011).

==== Replacing the Firmware ====

There are several reasons why you might wish to take this seemingly drastic step. It is possible that the system software gets corrupted somehow (for example, a power failure whilst you are completing the 'first boot' process). Alternatively, you might wish to install a copy of the firmware on an SD card if you are experimenting with different system configurations. Regardless, the Pandora is very robust, it is always possible to download some files to the SD card, and use these to return the internal [[NAND]] to the 'factory' state without too much effort. See the [[Introduction to firmware]] page for information on how to do this.

== Pandora FAQ ==
Silly goose, go to the [[FAQ]] page for more detailed information.

==Futher reading==
* [[Basic Linux Guide]] - For those who don't know very much about Linux and want to learn more.
* [[Minimenu Configuration Documentation]] - If you want to customize or configure Minimenu.
* [[Tutorials]]
* [[Emulator list]] - See what systems you can emulate.
* [[Games]] - Take a look at the games that are available.
* [[Software projects]] - A list of all non-emulator, non-game software for Pandora.

[[Category:Documentation]]

User manual

2011-04-24T09:50:38Z

ABC: formating part 1

{{IntroNote | This Wiki is an unofficial community project, and Open Pandora Ltd. is not responsible for its content. Neither is the Wiki an official source of information about your device. <br/>We can always use more help, look [[Getting_involved#The_Wiki | here]] to find out how you can get involved.}}

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[[Image:PandoraFront.jpg|Right|thumb|360px|The Pandora.]]
So your Pandora just arrived after being in the post for two months. Jolly good! But now that it's actually here, what on earth do you do with it? '''Don't panic!''' Let's take a look at what's included in the box (so you don't miss anything!) and then hop on over to setting it up for that extended Ms. Pacman marathon you've been waiting for!

Also, don't forget to hit up [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/forum/61-pandora/ GP32X] for questions/info/apps/fun/discussion! Ask on the [http://boards.openpandora.org/ Official Open Pandora forum] if you want a definitive answer.

If you find a problem which is not explained after visiting the forum, be sure to report it in the [http://bugs.openpandora.org/ Bug Tracker]

== Safety Information ==
{{warning
|Choking Hazard, do not let '''children''' under the age of 3 come close to your Pandora console.<br>The Pandora contains small parts that can be eaten by those children.
}}

{{warning
|The [[battery]] of Pandora must be charged by the [[charger]] included with the Pandora (see package contents). [http://www.open-pandora.org/ Open Pandora Ltd.] will not be responsible for damage arising from the use of third party chargers. Please be aware that "cheap" third party chargers often carry fake CE logos. These can damage your Pandora or burst horribly into FLAMES.
}}

{{warning
|Keep the Pandora in normal temperatures under 140F/60C (Recommended temperatures are in the range between -10C and 40C){{Citation needed}}. The [[battery]] is a standard Lithium Polymer battery. Do not keep near fire or water. Do not disassemble, destroy or damage the battery, or it may explode! Do not short circuit external contacts! Dispose of it properly, please.
}}

{{warning
|Modifications to [[hardware]] ([[Hardware hacking]]) can damage your Pandora. [http://www.open-pandora.org/ Open Pandora Ltd] cannot be held responsible for any resulting damages that occur from you modifying your Pandora.
}}

{{warning
|Malicious software can do horrible things to your Pandora. Only download Pandora software from trusted locations such as the [http://apps.openpandora.org Pandora Apps] website, the [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi Pandora File Archive], or the websites of trusted developers.
}}

{{warning
|The Pandora has a 4.3-inch [[touch screen]]. You can touch the screen to trigger an action. That's right, a touch screen - '''not a stab screen''', punch screen, or solid mahogany workbench. Always touch the screen gently – that is more than enough to trigger the action you want.
}}

{{warning
|The casing of the Pandora has been designed for maximum strength, making it quite hard to break. Please do not consider this a challenge. Do '''not drop, throw, clamp, launch, tumble dry''', or place anvils on the Pandora. This will void your warranty.
}}

== Warranty Information ==
A one year warranty applies as required by law, and the device will be replaced/repaired if it is faulty. LCDs with numerous/excessive dead pixels will also be replaced.{{Citation needed}}

== Box Contents ==
When you first open Pandora's box, a slew of demons and raging emotions may forcibly leave the box. This is normal. After that, you should find the following items:
*Pandora console
*[[Stylus]] (located in stylus slot on the side of the Pandora)
*[[Battery]]
*Mains power adapter ([[charger]])
*[[Battery case]] (note: it can be difficult to open. [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/963-complain-about-battery-case-here/ Here] is how to do it)
The following items should also be present if you ordered them separately:
*[[TV-Out Cable]] (As of 3rd November 2010 these are not yet included in the box and will ship separately as available)
*[[Carrying Case]]
*Extra Battery
After you take those things out, you may find a sliver of Hope left over. It's best to keep it, as you never know when you could use some Hope.

== Specifications ==
==== Highlights ====
{{citation needed}}
* [[ARM]]® Cortex™-A8 600Mhz+ CPU running [[Linux]]*
* 430-MHz [[TMS320C64x+]]™ DSP Core
* PowerVR SGX [[OpenGL 2.0 ES]] compliant 3D hardware
* 800x480 4.3" 16.7 million colours [[touchscreen]] LCD
* [[Wifi]] 802.11b/g, [[Bluetooth]] & High Speed [[USB]] 2.0 Host
* Dual [[SDHC card]] slots & SVideo [[TV output]]
* Dual Analogue and Digital gaming controls ([[nubs]])
* 43 button QWERTY and numeric [[keypad]]
* Around 10+ Hours battery life**

:<small><nowiki>*</nowiki>The 600Mhz+ can be clocked higher or lower. This can be controlled by software designed for the device.</small>
:<small><nowiki>**</nowiki>Is affected by use. (For example, turning Wi-Fi off will give better battery life.)</small>

==== Advanced Specifications ====
* Texas Instruments [[OMAP3530]] processor at 600MHz (officially)
* 256MB DDR-333 [[SDRAM]]
* 512MB [[NAND]] FLASH memory
* [[IVA2+]] audio and video processor using TI's DaVinci™ technology (430MHz C64x DSP)
* [[ARM]]® Cortex™-A8 superscalar microprocessor core
* PowerVR [[SGX530]] (110MHz officially) OpenGL ES 2.0 compliant 3D hardware
* integrated [[Wifi]] 802.11b/g (up to 18dBm output)
* integrated [[Bluetooth]] 2.0 + EDR (3Mbps) (Class 2, + 4dBm)
* 800x480 resolution LTPS [[LCD]] with resistive touch screen, 4.3" widescreen, 16.7 million colors (300 cd/m2 brightness, 450:1 contrast ratio)
* Dual analog controllers ([[nubs]])
* Full [[gamepad]] controls plus [[shoulder buttons]]
* Dual [[SDHC card]] slots (up to 64GB of storage currently)
* headphone output up to 150mW/channel into 16 ohms, 99dB SNR (up to 24 bit/48KHz)
* [[TV output]] (composite and S-Video)
* Internal microphone plus ability to connect external microphone through headset
* Stereo line level inputs and outputs
* 43 button QWERTY and numeric [[keypad]]
* [[USB]] 2.0 OTG port (1.5/12/480Mbps) with capability to charge device
* [[USB]] 2.0 HOST port (480Mbps) capable of providing the full 500mA to attached devices (examples include USB memory, keyboard, mouse, 3G modem, GPS)
* up to two externally accessible [[UARTs]] and/or four [[PWM]] signals for [[hardware hacking]], robot control, debugging, etc.
* un-brickable design with integrated [[boot loader]] for safe code experimentation
* Power and hold [[switch]] useful for "instant on" and key lockout to aid in media player applications on the go
* Runs on the Linux [[operating system]] (2.6.x)
* Dimensions: 140x83.4x27.5mm
* Weight: 335g (with 4200mAh battery)

==== Features ====
The Pandora is a mixture between a PC and a gaming console (similar to classic computers such as the Amiga). That's why it has gaming controls (ABXY buttons, [[d-pad]], and [[analogue nubs]]). It is fast enough to emulate many other systems, run a full desktop, access the internet with Firefox and play games such as Quake III. However, it is not as big as a netbook. Believe it or not, it will fit in your pocket. It's a bit bigger than the original Nintendo DS. (See the [[#Applications | Applications]] section of this manual to see what applications your Pandora will come with.)
Remember that your Pandora console will get better with every application installed!

== First Time Use ==
Now that you've opened the box, let's set this thing up! Place the battery inside the battery compartment on the back of the Pandora, making sure the contacts touch(the little silvery metal bits, it's easy). Snap on the battery cover and you're all set!
If you find this linux stuff is a bit new and overwhelming, please try the [[Quickstart | quickstart page]] for a simple walk through the first steps (including downloading the codec pack) and please provide feedback on the forums about how it can be improved and still kept simple.
==== Charging ====
Charge your Pandora 8 hours before disconnecting it from the wall charger. This will improve the lifetime of your battery. To charge the Pandora, insert the power cable end in the Pandora and the other end into your wall socket.

The battery comes pre-charged at 40%, and that level might have decreased during shipping. To be on the safe side, we recommend that you charge the Pandora before you use it. Simply plug in your wall charger into an outlet, or optionally use a mini-USB cable connected to a computer or wall adapter. For extreme silliness, plug your Pandora into an ''already charged Pandora,'' and charge it from that! But not really.

To "fast charge" just put the system into "low-power" mode. You cannot charge the system while ''off''. This is currently a feature and may change in future versions of the firmware.

You can find more useful information about charging on the [[power modes]] page.

As an added note by MWeston:
IF YOU POWERED THE SYSTEM WITHOUT A BATTERY, SHUT IT OFF BEFORE STICKING THE BATTERY BACK IN.

Finally, don't just leave your Pandora plugged in forever. Unplug it once every couple days while using it to allow the battery to discharge from full (to around 90% or less?). If you're not going to use your Pandora for a while, discharge the battery to around 40%, remove the battery, wrap it in a plastic bag (a Ziplock-type bag?), and stick it in the fridge.

Leaving your Pandora plugged in indefinitely, even while in low-power mode, may damage the battery! See the [http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php?/topic/640-warning-dont-leave-your-pandora-plugged-in-for-too-long/|the Open Pandora Boards] for more details.

==== First Boot ====
Once your Pandora is ready, turn it on. The OS will take some time to boot up for the first time (about 10 minutes, this is only for the first boot, and is normal). After it has booted, a series of settings dialogs will pop up in the shape of a "Boot Wizard" allowing you to alter your Pandora's settings to your liking.

There are a total of 3 parts to the Boot Wizard guide:
===== System configuration =====
The first thing you will have to do is to calibrate the Pandora's touch screen. Only do this if the screen isn't calibrated already.
You will have the option for touchscreen calibration the first time you boot up your Pandora console.

Note: "Calibrating the touch screen" is a term used to describe the process of matching coordinates given by the touch layer with the underlying screen. A badly calibrated screen will register your push elsewhere on the screen, perhaps half a centimeter to one side. As there are sometimes slight variations in the production of the touch layer, you the user can improve the accuracy by matching the two layers manually.

===== User setup =====
After calibrating your screen, you will have to enter your full name. This is what you will see in any user selection dialogs or when the system needs to address you, so enter whatever you are most comfortable with. Then follows your username. It is recommended to choose an all-lowercase, one-word username here, since you will have to enter this name every time you log in. Once you've entered your username, a password input dialog appears. You will have to enter the password you want to use twice here. If you don't want to have a password for your device, simply leave both fields empty. If, however, you decide to enter a password, something hard to guess and between 8 and 16 characters long is preferred.

===== Network and security settings =====
You will now have to enter a name for your Pandora. This will be the Pandora's host name, so you have two options in this situation:

# If you don't have a domain you want to connect to, simply enter any name here. It should not contain any spaces.
# If you ''do'' have a domain you want to connect to, enter a name in the form of "pandoraname.domainname.tld". Note that you may never have a use for this.

Then, you'll have to choose whether you want to automatically log in on your Pandora when it boots, or if you should be given the opportunity to log in as a different user, or enter your password. It is recommended to disable auto login if you want to protect your user data, but if you're often in a hurry, then you can enable auto login here.

The final thing you will have to choose, is whether you want to use the full desktop Xfce environment or the gaming-oriented PMenu environment as your default environment in the Pandora. It is recommended to choose Xfce here if you want to gain access to the Pandora's full potential. This option can be changed later at any point.

==== Calibrating the Analog Nubs [http://pandorawiki.org/Nubs]====

The nubs automatically calibrate with use, and do so every time the unit is freshly powered up. Calibration information is stored inside the nub RAM, so when you power down (full power off, not just low power mode) the calibration information is lost. Calibrating the nubs is as simple as just using them -- do a few left right up down moves or swoosh around, and the nub will know its boundaries and be good thereafter.

So no special effort is required to calibrate or use the nubs, but the first few motions you use of them may be erratic as they self-calibrate.

==== Calibrating The Touchscreen ====
The touchscreen in your new Pandora device isn't psychic! You have to tell it what to do, and in order to do that effectively, you need to calibrate it. Simply navigate to settings→screen→calibration wizard{{Verify credibility}} and follow the onscreen instructions. You may have to recalibrate the screen from time to time as well.

During the first boot wizard, you will be offered the option to calibrate the touchscreen. By default it may well work okay, but the option is there. If calibration is far off, use the keyboard to select the calibration option.

==== Mouse (stylus/pointer) settings ====
When done with the calibration and you are back in the Pandora Xfce desktop environment you might also want to change some other touch screen settings to make navigation with the stylus work according to your preferences. Two recommended settings to experiment with for easier navigation are:

# The double-click Time setting
# The double-click Distance (valid touch-screen double-click area)

In the first setting, i.e. Time, you will be setting the interval between double-clicks where such clicks will be accepted as valid.
Ex. if you set the time to 250ms, the second click (or screen-tap in our case) must occur within 250ms of the first to be valid.

In the second setting, Distance, you will be setting the radius of screen area where the second click (tap) must fall into to be considered as a valid second tap. This means that if, for example, you set the distance to 5, your second tap must fall within a circle radius of 5 pixels from the point where the first tap occurred.

These two settings can be found under: Desktop ---> Xfce menu ---> Settings ---> Mouse ---> Behaviour tab.

== Basic Use ==
See the [[GUI]] page for more details on the user interfaces which can be used with the Pandora.

===Pmenu===

TBD.

===minimenu / mmenu===

minimenu is designed as a fast and easy to use launcher, without a lot of fancy frills. A grid of icons to launch, and use the d-pad or touchscreen to fire one off. It is fairly configurable and skinnable and is fully featured, and very fast. If you recall the interface on the gp32, gp2x, wiz, and gmenu2x you will be right at home and then some!

=====The main grid=====

The main grid with the default skin has most of the screen realestate showing a grid of available 'auto discovered' applications, with a detail panel on the right. A list of tabs is across the top of the screen, with some short help message on the bottom.

Pressing Start or B will invoke the pnd-application. Presseing Select will switch to a basic menu, providing shutdown or some advanced options.

Pressing "Y" (think "Why?") will bring up pnd-application documentation, if that pnd-file has defined any.

The left and right shoulder triggers will switch categories of applications; by default, minimenu includes an All category and defaults to showing it.

The applications are auto-discovered in the same means as the xfce desktop and pmenu and other pnd-supporting systems, however you may add additional minimenu-specific searchpaths into the configuration should you wish to. It is likely a basic file browser will also be added, letting you launch applications manually placed on your SD cards.

The standard overrides are supported -- .ovr files for icon title, clockspeed setting and categories, as well as a .pnd for icon override.

=====Skinning=====

Skinning guide in gp32x forum: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/53990-skinning-minimenu/

A mmskin.conf from February 2011: http://git.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=pandora-libraries.git;a=blob;f=minimenu/skin/default/mmskin.conf;h=695888b3ae310d7ea04b4e682baed0c0c6fc4349;hb=98c1d081629ac9cbb3056b39097a3db968ce4055

===Desktop style environment (Xfce)===

=====On the Desktop=====

The desktop will contain icons for numerous locations (such as each mounted SD card), as well as any auto-discovered pnd-applications located on SD cards or internal [[NAND]].

=====In the menu=====
On the bottom left you have your applications menu, similar to the Windows start menu. Clicking it brings up a list of all installed applications and pnd-applications in the appropriate location on your SD cards.

=====Miscellaneous=====
To the right may be some icons, these serve as shortcuts to commonly used applications. Next to that you have your taskbar which, as you might have guessed, lists all running applications in your current workspace. To the right of the taskbar you have your workspaces, think of these as multiple desktops. By default you have two to switch between. Applications running in one workspace will not be visible in the other, so you can effectively hide your Ms. Pacman game from your boss at work, because there's no way you're not going to go for the gold, even at work! Finally there are a few more icons that deal with TV-Out, network connectivity, etc. and some running applications may place an icon there as well. And to the right of THOSE, you have your time. Because time flies when you're using your Pandora! Badum tsh. And to the right of that, you have a little icon which, when clicked, displays all running applications.

Finally, I'd just like to reiterate this--EVERYTHING is customizable! We'll get to that section later on.

If a window is too tall to fit on the screen you can move it by holding down the left sholder button and dragging the window with the stylus.

===Pandora Button===

When in the desktop style environment (Xfce), the Pandora button will bring up the applications menu, letting you quickly view the available applications. If held, it allows you to [[User_manual#Killing Applications | kill]] an unresponsive application. If that doesn't work, you can do a hard-reset of the Pandora by pressing and holding the Pandora button, then flicking the power switch to the right.

===Power modes===

The [[Power modes]] page provides full details of power modes, charging and battery care and lifetime.

Without switching the device entirely off, it may be placed into low power mode or regular power mode; simply sliding the power switch to the right will toggle modes.

Consider low power mode to be akin to turning off a PDA or cellphone -- the screen is off, the CPU is clocked down and so on, but the device is still silently on, allowing for alarms to go off or it to be turned on again instantly. Regular power mode is for normal usage.

Low power mode is probably going to be used as the normal "off" for most people, with true off (device powered down entirely, unable to respond to alarms or wake up quickly) available to conserve battery power. Turning the Pandora off completely is the best option if you don't plan on using it for few weeks or longer.

Closing the lid will turn off the display but otherwise leave the device operating - handy for audio playing; turning off the display reduces power consumption.

Shutdown will only occur if you are unplugged from the wall. The device can't be charged while off, to "fast charge" just switch to low power mode. See [[Power modes | power modes]] for more info.

The actual behavior of buttons and events can be customized.

=== USB Peripherals ===
You can connect USB2 High Speed peripherals directly, using the large USB connector, or a USB-OTG adaptor lead. Lower-speed USB devices will only work through a hub, the Pandora does not have the support circuitry inside to drive the interface in the correct mode.
See the [[USB_compatibility_list|the USB compatibility list]] for peripherals which have been tested so far.

=== Killing Applications ===
Killing (or forcibly closing) an unresponsive application is as simple as holding down the Pandora button (just under start and select) for a few seconds. A dialog will appear which lists the open applications and gives you the option to kill them.

=== Forcing a Restart ===
Occasionally something will happen causing your Pandora to become unresponsive (to the point that even killing a program isn't possible). When this happens it is necessary to force your Pandora to restart. The easiest way to do this is by holding the Pandora button and moving the power switch to the right.

== Configuration and Customization ==
This is just an overview of the customization and configuration you can do. Individual sections may link to their own pages.

=== Setting Up WiFi ===
If wifi is enabled, and you are in range of an access point, a dialogue should appear offering to connect to it. See the [[Wifi]] page for more detail on using wifi.

=== Setting Up Bluetooth ===
Connecting to bluetooth devices is easy using the tool located in the Xfce taskbar.

For help with setting up a bluetooth GPS, see [[GPS#Bluetooth_GPS | here]].

See also: [[Bluetooth]]

=== Adjusting Brightness/Contrast ===
Brightness can be raised by pressing Fn+I and lowered with Fn+U. A tool is included with the Pandora called "LCD-Settings" (under the "Settings" menu) which can be used to adjust the brightness and the gamma.

=== Changing Your Theme ===
Under "Settings" in the menu, you will find "Appearance" which will let you adjust the style, icon set, fonts, and a few other appearance related settings. Also, under "Window Manager" you can adjust the style of each window's title bar.

=== Minimenu Configuration and Tricks ===

minimenu has a fairly comprehensive configuration file for its minimalistic design; most options may be enabled or disabled or fiddled with, and the skin can reasonably be altered.

The All category can be removed if undesired.

Expert conf hackers can specify what categories they'd like and in what order, and have multiple app categories dumped into one tab, and other tricks.

pnd-application icons may be all loaded during the menu setup, or deferred until later and loaded in the background.

Preview pics may be loaded up front (not advised, as it can be slow), or deferred until later. (When deferred, they may load when you rest the selection, or load in background.)

You may choose to have auto-discovered applications registered into any of their 6 categories (Main, Sub1, Sub2, Alt, AltSub1, AltSub2).

Etc and so on.

Additional keys are supported: Q to quit the menu (not really useful for most people), and Space to invoke the application.

[[Minimenu Configuration Documentation | This section contains more information.]]

== Applications ==

Many applications will come preinstalled into the internal [[NAND]]; these will be regular Linux applications (not packaged into pnd files, since they do not need to be redistributed to anyone.)

Additional applications may be found as [[Introduction to PNDs | pnd-files]] (a packaged up single file representing an entire application) or as regular Linux files (an application likely being made up of many files and possibly needing installation.)

==== What Is Included? ====
* Ångström Linux: Lightweight beautiful Linux-based operating system for the Pandora.
* Xfce: A full featured window manager for Linux.
* Midori: A full featured web browser, designed to be lighter and faster than a full desktop style browser.
* Lightweight office utilities including Abiword, Gnumeric, and ClawsMail (warning: do not use ClawsMail, it will fill up your [[NAND]]. Solutions are [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56810-html-viewer-for-claws-mail/page__view__findpost__p__919458 being worked on]). '''As of [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58867-hotfix-5-released/ Hotfix 5]''', GCalcTool is also included, while Abiword, Gnumeric, Clawsmail and Pidgin have been removed (you can download them from [[software projects|here]] instead).
{{Volume needed}}

==== Where Can I Get More Apps? ====
There are many ways to get more applications onto your Pandora.

*On this wiki, we maintain up-to-date lists of [[games]], [[Emulator list|emulators]], and [[Software projects|other software]], with download links. These lists are more comprehensive than the two official sites below, because not every program is submitted to both of them.

*To help with the massive range of applications, a member of the community has started to produce [[PandaPacks]] for some pre-packaged games, emulators and distributable ROMs in handy SD card filling torrents.

*The easiest way is to browse the [http://apps.open-pandora.org Open App Store], where you can download a selection of free or commercial applications. To download, navigate to an app, pay for it if you must, and hit the 'download' button. Select where you want to save it, and you're done!

*There is the good ol' [http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi Pandora File Archive].

*There are nice repositories, such as the [http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo Angstrom ARM Repository], or...

*The Pandora includes the package manager opkg, which is a fork of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipkg ipkg]. Note this will install to [[NAND]] by default, so should be used with great caution. Type "df -h" into the terminal to see how much space you have left.

*Also, people may upload their apps to weird crevices in the net, so be on the lookout! (or use a search engine)

:<div style="border-top:1px solid gray; border-bottom:1px solid gray; padding-top:5px; padding-bottom:5px; margin-bottom:20px">''Note: Your Pandora's internal memory (NAND) will be at close to capacity when you receive it. All new programs should be installed to SD card. Downloads from the Angstrom Repo, or use of the opkg package manager, should only be done by advanced users or when instructed by Open Pandora Ltd (for example, firmware updates will probably use a pandora specific repository in the future).''</div>

==== Installing a PND file (an application) ====
[[Image:PandoraSD.png|thumb|alt=SD card folder structure|This is what the folder structure on your SD card should look like. The drive letter and card name will vary; they're not important.]]
Installation of a PND file is so easy, you can hardly even call it installing. All you need to do is copy the PND file into the appropriate folder on your SD card. The first thing you'll need to do is set up some folders that the Pandora will recognise. It's recommended that you start with a blank, freshly formatted (or freshly purchased) SD card. For the purposes of this guide we'll refer to your SD card as <SD>. (Windows might call it something like G:\Removable Disk.) Create a new folder on the SD card called 'pandora':
*<SD>/pandora
Then open the 'pandora' folder, and create four more inside it: apps, appdata, desktop, and menu:
*<SD>/pandora/apps
*<SD>/pandora/appdata/
*<SD>/pandora/desktop/
*<SD>/pandora/menu/
Now you're ready to install a PND file. Just copy and paste (or drag and drop) (or save) the file into your folder of choice:
* Putting a PND in the /desktop folder will make it appear on the XFCE desktop
* Putting a PND in the /menu folder will make it appear in the XFCE system menu
* Putting a PND in the /apps folder will make it appear in both locations
* If you're using Minimenu instead of XFCE, it doesn't matter which of these three folders you use
Occasionally you'll come across an application which needs additional data (for example, the data files for Quake, or ROMs for an emulator). These files goes into the appdata folder. A PND program will automatically create its own subfolder within /appdata the first time it is run; then you can add files to it. More information on this is available on the [[Introduction_to_PNDs#Where_does_my_data_go.3F_How_do_I_make_files_visible_to_the_applications.3F | introduction to PNDs]] page.

== Firmware ==
For more detail about firmware, see the [[Introduction to firmware]] page.

==== Updating The Firmware ====

Updates to the firmware are currently provided as Hotfix packages, in [[Introduction to PNDs |PND]] format. Check the OpenPandora official [http://www.open-pandora.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=178&Itemid=32&lang=en support] page for the latest status. This will update any parts of the system which need to be updated. A more flexible system is planned, this should allow automatic downloading and installing of updates if you wish (but should not be expected before some time in 2011).

==== Replacing the Firmware ====

There are several reasons why you might wish to take this seemingly drastic step. It is possible that the system software gets corrupted somehow (for example, a power failure whilst you are completing the 'first boot' process). Alternatively, you might wish to install a copy of the firmware on an SD card if you are experimenting with different system configurations. Regardless, the Pandora is very robust, it is always possible to download some files to the SD card, and use these to return the internal [[NAND]] to the 'factory' state without too much effort. See the [[Introduction to firmware]] page for information on how to do this.

== Pandora FAQ ==
Silly goose, go to the [[FAQ]] page for more detailed information.

==Futher reading==
* [[Basic Linux Guide]] - For those who don't know very much about Linux and want to learn more.
* [[Minimenu Configuration Documentation]] - If you want to customize or configure Minimenu.
* [[Tutorials]]
* [[Emulator list]] - See what systems you can emulate.
* [[Games]] - Take a look at the games that are available.
* [[Software projects]] - A list of all non-emulator, non-game software for Pandora.

[[Category:Documentation]]

Pandora

2011-04-24T09:23:20Z

ABC: more images

File talk:Size-compare.jpg

2011-04-24T09:18:49Z

ABC: please replace with a photo

==replace by a photo==
Hi can anyone please repleace this abstract image by fotos comparing the mentioned devices on a stack? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 11:18, 24 April 2011 (MEST)

Keyboard

2011-04-24T09:10:25Z

ABC: images

[[Image:Pandkey.png|thumb]]

==XFCE==
{|class="wikitable"
!Key!!Function
|-
|Shoulder Button L||Shift
|-
|Shoulder Button R||Ctrl
|-
|D-pad||Cursor Keys
|-
|L-Nub||Mouse Cursor
|-
|R-Nub||Mousebutton Mode (L=L mousebutton click, U=Double-L-click, R=R mousebutton click, D=Middle mousebutton click)
|-
|Game A||Home
|-
|Game B||End
|-
|Game Y||PgUp
|-
|Game X||PgDn
|-
|Fn key||Sticky, so can be pressed before a key which you want to modify.
|-
|Shift-Enter||Compose mode
|-
|Alt/Ctrl/Start(1 sec)|| Kill(long hold)
|}

* [[Compose mode]] allows <shift><enter><fn> s a to combine " and a to get a special character, for example.
* '''hard-reset''' of the Pandora (in case of software crashes), press and hold the Pandora key and flick the power button to the right. (see also: [[power modes]])
* [[XFCE]], if a program is greater than the Pandora's screen resolution, you can scroll by holding down shift (or the left shoulder button) then clicking anywhere in the window and dragging it around.
* [[minimenu]], pressing Y when an icon is highlighted brings up the readme files.
* [[DOSBox]], in order to use the colon symbol, [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/53973-dosbox-cant-use-colon/page__pid__933150__st__0&#entry933150 you have to press shift (left shoulder button) + Fn + ";"]. This also goes for the underscore symbol.

'''See also:'''
*[[Keyboard remapping]]

==History==

In the months before the first preorders were taken, there was much discussion and community voting about the best layout. [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/43762-pandora-keyboard-layout/ This] was one of the final votes. The final layout was different from either one of the two most popular community proposals, but incorporated some of the suggestions such as having a "Pandora" button.

==Matrix==
The matrix layour is detailed on p.20 of the Hardware hacker's guide ([http://www.openpandora.org/downloads/PANDORA_Hackers_manual_v100.pdf here]). A more readable version appears below.
<gallery widths=250px>
Image:Final Keymat.jpg|the mat
image:Keypadmatrix.png
</gallery>

[[Category:Keyboard]]

Wireless from the Terminal

2011-04-24T06:48:19Z

ABC: formating

Sometimes, you may wish to bypass network manager and configure the [[WLAN]] directly. Here is described how to do this.

===Becoming Root===
* You'll need to be root for pretty much everything here.
<source lang="bash">sudo -i</source>

===Killing NetworkManager===
* A good first step is to just stop NetworkManager, so it doesn't conflict with what we're doing now.
<source lang="bash">/etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop</source>

===Optional: Disabling NetworkManager===
You may want to completely disable NetworkManager. Here's how.

* This will remove NetworkManager from startup.
<source lang="bash">update-rc.d -f NetworkManager remove</source>
* This will add it back.
<source lang="bash">update-rc.d NetworkManager defaults</source>

===Configuring wpa_supplicant===
wpa_supplicant is generally used for connecting using WPA, but I find it pretty convenient even on it's own. It'll also be easier to explain for 1 thing rather than explaining this and iwconfig. It also seems to start by default with the Pandora, but I honestly can't determine what starts it, just that it does.

* Anyway, wpa_supplicant needs to be configured. It's default config file is found in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf. Here's a basic configuration file that should work with most home routers with WPA. If you have no encryption, set key_mgmt to NONE and remove the psk= line. If you have WEP, key_mgmt should also be NONE and psk= should be removed and replaced with wep_key0= followed by the HEXADECIMAL wep key. You'll need some kind of converter to go from an ASCII key to a HEX key. Here's one, be safe and make sure you don't use the key for anything else important, since you're entering it in to another site: [http://www.speedguide.net/wlan_key.php WEP key converter]
<source lang="apache">
network={
	ssid="Access Point SSID goes here"
	scan_ssid=1
	key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
	psk="password goes here"
}
</source>

* A good idea now would be to reboot, to make sure everything is clean. You may need to kill NetworkManager again afterwards, then toggle WLAN off then on (Menu -> System -> Toggle WiFi). You can also make wpa_supplicant reload it's configuration without rebooting:
<source lang="bash">wpa_cli</source>
* Then type at the prompt
<source lang="bash">reconfigure</source>

wpa_cli is also good to check the status of wpa_supplicant when you're trying to connect. It'll spit out messages based on what's going on while you're toggling WLAN on and off to see if it's associated or just times out.
If wpa_cli outputs "Could not connect to wpa_supplicant - retrying" you need to enable WLAN via "Main Menu"->"System"->"Toggle WiFi" first.

===Setting Up the Network===
Once you have a connection to the access point, you need to set up a few things either manually or through DHCP.

* To check for connection, if you have wpa_cli running, you can see it's output when you're toggling WLAN on. It'll either say it's Associated, which means it succeeded or that it's timed out, which means it failed, or possibly any other number of errors. You can also check iwconfig.
<source lang="bash">iwconfig</source>
* If it says Access Point:Not-Associated after about 30 seconds, that means it has likely failed. If you see a 12 digit hex string, that means it has found the access point and has an active connection to it.

====Automatic====
* If you trust DHCP to work, you can just try this.
<source lang="bash">udhcpc -i wlan0</source>

If all goes well, everything will be properly configured and you'll be on the net. Otherwise you should try to do it manually (see below).

====Manual====
Here are the commands you need to enter to configure the network manually.

* This is optional, but I put it anyway, just in case it causes some kind of trouble.
<source lang="bash">ifconfig usb0 down</source>
* This disables power management, which can help a dodgy WLAN connection.
<source lang="bash">iwconfig wlan0 power off</source>
* This limits the rate to 11Mbit, which also can help an unstable WLAN connection.
<source lang="bash">iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M auto</source>
* Set the IP, broadcast and netmask all at once.
<source lang="bash">ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.150/24</source>
* If your network is weird, here's an alternate, more specific line.
<source lang="bash">ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.150 broadcast 192.168.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0</source>
* Add the route to the gateway.
<source lang="bash">route add default gw 192.168.1.1</source>

Replace 192.168.1.1 with your gateway IP (You can get this from one of your other computers on the network. Linux: ifconfig Windows: ipconfig /all) and 192.168.1.150 with the IP you'd like your Pandora to be. There are a few caveats here, though. Simply put, the subnet needs to be the same as your gateway's subnet. So if it's 192.168.X.Y, it needs to start with 192.168.X or if it's 10.0.0.1, it needs to start with 10. Also for 10.0.0.1, the /24 needs to be /8. There's a bunch of other stuff to do with that, and many odd variations on it, but I'm sure there's a better reference for it elsewhere.

* One last thing you'll need to do is set up DNS name servers. You can get this information from another computer on the network with a working Internet connection.
=====Linux=====
<source lang="bash">cat /etc/resolv.conf</source>
* Copy that file verbatim in to the /etc/resolv.conf on the Pandora.

=====Windows=====
<source lang="bash">ipconfig /all</source>
* There should be a line for Primary DNS Server and possibly Secondary DNS Server. They should be entered in to /etc/resolv.conf like this.
<source lang="bash">
nameserver Primary.DNS.Server.IP
nameserver Secondary.DNS.Server.IP
</source>
If there is no secondary DNS server, don't worry, just enter only the first line, then.

References:
[http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wpa_supplicant]
[http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless#Manual_setup]
[http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AutoWLAN]

[[Category:Tutorials]]
[[Category:Wifi]]

Talk:Will X run on the Pandora?

2011-04-24T06:42:29Z

ABC: /* why is this here */ please delete

==why is this here==
This serves almost the same purpose as [[Port Requests]] and is very outdated, delete? --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 22:47, 15 July 2010 (MEST)
:Yeah, probably. But one thing is worth saving: I like how the color codes are for one column only, unlike in [[emulator list]] where the whole row is a color. This is a useful thing to know for future emulator compatibility lists on the wiki. Also, this color red is much easier on the eyes than the one in the emulator list right now... maybe we should use this one instead... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:11, 16 July 2010 (MEST)
:The weird thing is that this article was created months ''after'' the Port Requests article was... the one useful bit of information it has now is mentioning which programs could theoretically be ported, but practically would not work well (i.e. the Sega Saturn emulator). I don't know if that justifies keeping it, though... we should ask the original creator, maybe... [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:15, 16 July 2010 (MEST)

Justifies it to me. I added it to the main page. Let's see some action here! [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 15:25, 23 January 2011 (MET)

:I see this page as a good spot for things that are requested but have doubtful chance of getting ported. Basicsally things that are requested and get cut from [[port requests]] [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 17:49, 19 February 2011 (MET)

:Would recommend to sync both pages and delete one left. At least please choose a better title while 'X' could be associated to the X server that creates the visual appeareance --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:42, 24 April 2011 (MEST)

== We need more "It's Possible" entries ==
Anyone mind coming here and telling us what IS possible?

stuff on port request [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 17:42, 19 February 2011 (MET)

== To Whoever Added Yabause ==
It's not happening. No, it doesn't matter that the Saturn only runs at 333Mhz. It's got a very complex architecture, and is a bitch to program for, much less emulate. The link you gave was for a '''TEST''' release. As in, just porting it to port it. It runs like crap. [[User:Blue Protoman|Blue Protoman]] 21:31, 18 February 2011 (MET)

== Irrlicht ==

I think there should be an entry for Irrlicht, and it should probably mention [http://celeron.55.lt/~celeron55/minetest/ minetest] [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 17:24, 20 February 2011 (MET)

== unportable ==

this page has been assimilated into port requests . http://pandorawiki.org/Port_requests#Unportable [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 04:37, 21 March 2011 (MET)
:But not entirely, it seems; you don't have the different degrees between "possible" and "impossible" that are present here. Also, please explain your reasoning: what is the benefit of having both "port requests" and "unportable" things on one page? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 19:35, 21 March 2011 (MET)
:: people often only see stuff on will x run , so they think it was never added. I could ask what the advantage of having unreleased stuff on the software list is. If the source is available and its not already ported.add it to port request. What makes something impossible? Its not closed stuff, it can be modified. Unportable is really just a "really difficult" section. Only stuff I would call impossible is full speed on mess,mame,dolphin and pcsx2. Not really sure about the "unportable" emulators [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 20:46, 21 March 2011 (MET)
:::"I could ask what the advantage of having unreleased stuff on the software list is." - one advantage is that it's easier for the people updating the page to move a project between sections from "unreleased" to "released", if a project that was being worked on gets released. I'll grant that that section on the "software projects" list isn't very organized right now; when I get a bit of time, I'm going to make it more like the unreleased "games" list, which is properly sourced so you can see when the last update was and if a project is likely to still be being worked on or not.
:::About terminology: When I read "unportable", to me that means "''impossible''" not "really difficult", so you might want to clarify that. I think I like the different degrees on this page better than a black/white "portable/unportable" - seems to capture the ambiguity of some of this stuff more. You say yourself that you're unsure about where some of it should go. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:25, 22 March 2011 (MET)
:::: so I'll rename it to improbable . normal stuff goes in its section. stuff with source that is unlikely to be ported can be moved to improbable section [[User:Maplesugarlover|maplesugarlover]] 00:47, 22 March 2011 (MET)
:::::Thanks, that seems a lot more clear. Seems like this page still has a use, though, because it also covers things for which the source code is ''not'' available (or available, but with conditions such as at least 50,000 Pandoras sold). My view is that this page is meant to be more of a visible guide for newbies about what ''not to ask about''. It's a bit ill-defined, but it's just meant to cover some of the more frequently asked-about programs that won't be able to run. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 02:15, 22 March 2011 (MET)

::::::I'm not sure this page is really worthwhile having around... it's a similar situation as deciding to put the unreleased games on the games list, and well, I know you're (Esn) an advocate of that. The unique content here can easily find it's way onto port requests, a page that many already know about (they will look there first). The newbie reasoning is valid, but I think type of people who might think running proprietary Windows software is possible wouldn't be the kind of people to read through a wiki before asking (besides, if they do, the main [[Pandora]] article specifically states that it wont do it). --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 05:56, 22 March 2011 (MET)

:::::::Well, I'm not sure it's ''quite'' the same... the "unreleased" sections are largely meant to be for a historical/news record, not for a newbie-guide. The inclusion criteria is fairly precise: must be something that is/may be/was being worked on, of which some record exists. The inclusion criteria for this page is not defined as precisely - its main purpose really (it seems to me) is to answer some of the more common newbie questions about what can run. OBVIOUSLY, it cannot contain EVERYTHING that the Pandora cannot run. So its main goal, then (if we accept that that is its main reason for being), is to be simple and visible, and elastic to the need at hand (so if we notice a lot of newbies begin asking about program X, we'd include that program in this article in the hope that they'll ask about it less).
:::::::Also, the "unreleased" sections are in the same articles partly because "it's easier for the editor"; on the other hand, I don't foresee any programs being moved from "improbable/unportable" to the other "port requests" sections (maybe the other way around... I guess that makes sense - could make things a bit easier for maplesugarlover, ''if'' he plans to move every undoable port request into the new section, instead of just deleting it). Also, the reason why I support "unreleased" sections in the three software pages instead of one "unreleased" page is similar to why there are three software lists, instead of one list for everything; the table structure that they require is different. They're also the three major categories both in Pandora Apps and on the File Archive. If you were to split them up into a separate article (like maplesugarlover tried a while back), the table structure would ''still'' be different - they'd still be split up - but now you have 4 articles instead of 3, and things are harder for the editors.
:::::::Since BlueProtoman is the guy who originally conceived of this page in its current form, I'd like him to weigh in. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:43, 22 March 2011 (MET)

Wiki TODO

2011-04-24T06:39:43Z

ABC: formating

This page is intended for anyone who wants to help the wiki, but isn't quite sure what needs to be done.

== Ongoing ==
* Keep the [[Main Page]] and [[Pandora]] pages updated.

== Update lists ==
* [[Legal Emulation Resources]] - add info from topic onto the page (this is done for the most part, some links could be missing).
* [[USB compatibility list]] - there seems to be a duplicate of this page ([[Pandora Hardware]]), that duplicate should be deleted and redirect here, but I like the layout of the duplicate page more. Maybe that layout should be used on the compatibility list.
* Take a look at [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/54923-the-pandora-apps-thread this thread] and add anything new to the [[emulators]], [[games]], and [[software]] lists.
* Expand this page: [[Troubleshooting common problems]]
*:Looking through the forums and noting what problems seems to come up a lot could be a start. A list could be put in the discussion section of that page if you don't feel comfortable describing how to possibly solve it, or just linking to related topics could be enough for now.
*:For any pages you edit, work out how (knowing the page exists) one would navigate to it from the main page, without searching.

==Expand stubs==
Find old stub (low content) pages and merge with more useful ones. Some pages are just forward looking from pre-release and may not be relevant any more.

== Lonely pages ==
Go through and find pages which aren't being linked to anywhere ([[Special:Specialpages]] and specifically [[Special:Lonelypages]] can help). Find somewhere that makes sense and add a link to the page there... if necessary, make a new page in the style of [[Tutorials and documentation]]. There is some discussion about this [[Talk:Wiki TODO]].

== Add Categories==
Go through and make sure each page has an appropriate category, add categories for [[Special:Uncategorizedpages | pages without]].

If you find any [[:Category:Spam|spam]] pages, please add "<nowiki>[[Category:Spam]]</nowiki>" to the page.

==Monitor talks/changes==
Take a look at the [http://www.pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&days=30&namespace=1 recent talk changes] for possible things to do.

[[Category:Wiki]]

Talk:Old Main Page

2011-04-24T06:34:51Z

ABC: /* News bar? */ new section

Talk:Old Main Page

2011-04-24T06:31:31Z

ABC: /* Updating Mediawiki */ mockups not bad, but wouldn't be top more logical?

Talk:USB reference

2011-04-24T05:39:01Z

ABC: /* Move Request */ new section

USB reference

2011-04-24T05:37:35Z

ABC: move req

{{move|USB FAQ}}

==Readme First!==

If you have a question to ask, that isn't covered in this FAQ already, please ask over on the [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showforum=61 Forums].

==USB FAQ==

===How many USB ports does Pandora have?===
Pandora has two USB ports:
* 1x USB 2.0 host port (USB standard-A receptacle)
* 1x USB 1.1/2.0 OTG port (USB mini-AB receptacle)

===What does “host port” mean?===
A USB host port “hosts” any device that you plug in, just like the USB ports on your computer. Pandora’s full size USB A port can host USB 2.0 devices (only if they are '''high speed compliant'''!), and provide up to 500mA (the maximum allowed according to USB standards).

===What does “OTG” mean?===
OTG stands for On The Go. USB OTG ports can operate in two different modes. When connected through this port, the Pandora can act as a device, for example when connected to a computer for charging & data transfer. For this mode, you need a standard-A to mini-B cable. However, the Pandora can also act as a host port for USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 devices. For details on how to make the necessary cable connection, see [[USB_reference#OTG_host_mode|the OTG host mode section]]. This port can supply a maximum of 100mA in host mode. Although this port implements On The Go functionality, it can not get an official On The Go certification because the OTG specification requires a device to have exactly one USB port. (The Pandora has two.) Also, the mini-AB connector used on the Pandora has been taken out of the specification in 2007 (but is still widely adopted).

===What’s all this stuff about USB 1.1 and USB 2.0? Isn’t USB, uh, universal?===
USB 1.1 is a subset of the USB 2.0 protocol. Among many other things, the USB 2.0 standard introduced high-speed data transmission, which requires a special controller on the host side. Most USB ports (eg. on your computer’s motherboard, in USB hubs) actually contain '''two chips''' to allow universal compatibility – one that takes care of the Low-Speed (1.0 Mbit/s) and Full-Speed (12 Mbit/s) devices, and another one for the Hi-Speed (480 Mbit/s) devices. The reason is that Low-Speed and Full-Speed are essentially the same protocols operated at different clock frequencies. Hi-Speed is a completely new development and nothing like the other two.

For reasons beyond our control, Pandora’s USB standard-A host port does not contain this second chip. Only USB 2.0 devices bearing the “USB HI-SPEED” logo can be plugged directly into this port. However, USB 1.1 devices can be connected to this port through a USB hub, provided the hub bears the “USB HI-SPEED” logo.

Pandora’s USB OTG (mini-AB) port is fully compatible with both USB 1.1 and USB 2.0, allowing it to host either type of device.

===So which devices are which?===
[[Image:USB-HighSpeed-certified-Logo.png|thumb|alt=USB High Speed Certified logo|Devices bearing this logo are certified High Speed devices. They can be plugged directly into Pandora's USB 2.0 host port.]]
There are no set rules. As a very general guide:
* Common Low-Speed and Full-Speed devices include keyboards, mice, headsets, older USB devices.
* Common Hi-Speed devices include cameras, PMPs, HDDs, hubs, card readers, thumb drives.
This is just a rough representation of what’s out there in the wild, and you will find exceptions. Devices like HSDPA modems and GPS units could fall into either category. The only reliable indication of true Hi-Speed compatibility is the “USB Hi-Speed Certified” logo (right).

===Arrgh, USB used to be simple. What can I actually connect to Pandora?===
Almost anything, as long as it's supported by Linux. Think of a USB device that everybody uses (mouse, keyboard, thumb drive...) and chances are it will be a simple matter of plug and play. But this might not be the case for more specialised USB devices (modems, ethernet adapters, USB displays...), many of which will only function with Windows specific drivers.

If you intend to purchase USB accessories for use with Pandora, you should first research Linux support for that type of device. Devices already tested on Pandora will be added to the [[USB compatibility list]].

The various USB connection scenarios are as follows:

==Pandora as USB slave==
[[Image:Pandora.usb.slave.png|thumb|alt=Pandora as USB slave|Pandora as USB slave]]
Using a USB standard-A to mini-B cable (the kind you probably own several of), you can:
* Transfer data to/from Pandora
* Charge Pandora's battery.

'''Note:'''
* Charging Pandora from your computer's USB port is best done with Pandora in standby mode. The current provided by your computer will probably not be sufficient to provide a quick charge while Pandora is being used.
* There are USB standard-A to mini-B cables that can be used to charge your Pandora but don't work to transfer data to/ from the Pandora! MSWindows will complain abount "An unknown device connected". Try using a different cable.

==Hosting USB devices==
[[Image:Pandora.usb.host.png|thumb|alt=Pandora as a USB host|Pandora as a USB host]]
*Directly plug in a Hi-Speed USB 2.0 device such as a thumb drive, or a Huawei E160 modem.
*Using a USB standard-A to USB standard-B (or mini-B, micro-B, depending on what's on the device) cable, connect Hi-Speed USB 2.0 devices such as cameras, PMPs, and HDDS.
*Connect a USB hub, which will enable you to to connect other non-Hi-Speed USB devices such as keyboards, mice, or a Huawei E220 modem.

'''Note:'''
*This port can supply a maximum of 500mA. If you plan to use a USB HDD, note that very few of these can draw sufficient power from a single USB port. A powered HDD caddy or powered USB hub will be necessary in most cases.

==OTG host mode==
[[Image:Pandora.usb.otg.host.png|thumb|alt=Pandora in OTG host mode|Pandora in OTG host mode]]
How you connect a device to the mini-AB OTG port depends on the device's USB connector.
*standard-B receptacle: Use a mini-A to standard-B cable.
*mini-B receptacle: Use a mini-A to mini-B cable.
*micro-B receptacle: Use a mini-A plug to standard-A receptacle adapter and a standard-A to micro-B cable.
*standard-A plug: Use a mini-A plug to standard-A receptacle adapter.
*mini-A plug: No extra cable or adapter needed.
*micro-A plug: No standardized solution exists.

This port allows you to connect any USB 2.0-compliant device (Hi-Speed, Full-Speed, Low-Speed, including USB 1.1 ones) directly, without the use of a hub.

'''Notes:'''
*mini-A and mini-AB connectors have been removed from the present USB standard. This means that the above connectors may vanish from the market at some point (although there will probably be demand for them for some time). There are a lot of connectors available that were never standardized. It is recommended that you do not use them as they may lead to non-working connections. Stick to the cables and adapters mentioned above and look for a mention of "OTG" or "On The Go" and you should be on the safe side.
*In host mode, this port can supply a maximum of 100mA. USB 1.1 devices that draw more than 100mA will need to connect to Pandora's other USB port via a hub, as depicted in the previous example. The Huawei E220 is one such device.
*If you have trouble connecting any device to the small OTG port, check if 'Setting->Startup->Enable/Disable services on boot->Start USB Network on bootup' is checked! This needs to be set in order to work. Default setting is unchecked (better naming of this option <strike>is planned for Hotfix5</strike> has not been included in HotFix 5, see [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/56516-wishlist-for-hf5/]).

'''Host mode connector'''
[[Image:Mini-usb.png|thumb|Mini-B and Mini-A comparison]]
Shown here are a Mini-B connector (left, black) and a Mini-A connector (right, white). The mini-A connector should be the one you want in order to use the OTG port in host mode. Click on the image for a larger version.

With the right connector, it is not necessary to switch the mode of the port[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55396-how-do-you-put-the-usb-otg-port-into-host-mode/], it will be done automatically. It may also be possible to force a mode switch, but this has not been clarified by the devs, and could result in two devices both attempting to power the port (which is not recommended)

==Links==
*[[USB_compatibility_list|Pandora USB compatibility list]]
*[http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_20_122208.zip USB 2.0 Standard (including present OTG spec)]
*[http://www.usb.org/developers/onthego/otg1_0.pdf Original OTG Specification defining mini-A and mini-AB and allowed connections]
*[http://www.usb.org/developers/Deprecation_Announcement_052507.pdf mini-A and mini-AB Deprecation Announcement]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB Wikipedia page on USB]
*[http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?categoryID=79 Retro USB Game Controllers and Ports]

[[Category:USB]]

User talk:ABC

2011-04-23T19:15:56Z

ABC: please extend common.css, common.js

==Just want to say==
Be careful about marking pages for deletion... ED upgraded to the latest MediaWiki recently, and it looks like [[Talk:Main_Page#Second_Problem|some non-English pages might've been accidentally deleted]]. Until we figure out what's going on (and this could take a while, since ED is very busy), I'd rather not delete any of those pages that redirect to foreign-language pages that currently don't seem to exist... because they might have existed once.

Anyway, welcome to PandoraWiki! You've made a lot of nice edits recently. What prompted you to come over here suddenly? Was there a discussion on the German forums? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:58, 20 April 2011 (MEST)
:Hi there, sure I pay attention if the content is outdated or just a stub or (in my opinion) is badly named. I agree thats hard to decide for non english articles, but as this is a wiki, I decided to be gritty. Thats why I just marked them to delete and a second admin should decide if it's nesessary. If I did anything wrong feel free to drop me a note and to revert my changes.<br>
:No there wasn't a discussion at the german boards. I come over from the OpenStreetMap project, where I do wiki cleanup, too. Guess this is my faith to help to document OpenSource projects ;) And course my bachelor thesis is nearly finished, I decided to put some more attention on the Pandora :) --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:55, 20 April 2011 (MEST)

::Regarding "if you did anything wrong", the main thing I don't like currently is that you're copy+pasting templates from Wikipedia that look ugly here because some of the elements are missing. For example, [[Template:Merge|this one]]. Please just remove the missing elements & redlinks unless you're planning to bring them over as well (and honestly, we're much smaller than Wikipedia here; we don't NEED all the stuff that they have. If the community is small, it can be more efficient to have fewer rules.). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 00:53, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::Case in point: instead of just putting "merge" templates on pages that you want to move (as you did on [[Extend Utils]], [[Emulator compression support]], [[InfoIndex]]), why not start a discussion topic on the relevant talk pages discussing your reasons and proposals? If you just post a template, nobody has any idea about why you want to do it. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:43, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::To me this is just an personal note and to others a 'oh see somebody is working on that'. Of course when I start moving anything I will start a discussion. To be honest, I don't know the situation where the people monitor the global changelog (which is a very good thing!). But currently I try just to reformat the pages, not moving, merging,...--[[User:ABC|ABC]] 07:26, 22 April 2011 (MEST)

::A few more thoughts... what you've done with organizing the ''existing'' information here has been very valuable. The categories, for example - it's no secret that the category structure here has been a bit messy. I would urge you to be a bit more hesitant, though, in organizing ''future'' information - that is, information that doesn't exist yet. Some people tried that in the past, for example [[:Category:Emulator Compatibility|here]]... well, those pages were accidentally deleted with the latest update, so you can't see them right now (unless ED manages to figure out what went wrong), but basically an editor created a complicated structure for emulator compatibility lists... which nobody ended up using, because it was too complex to read or update. A prerequisite for any structure is that somebody has to be willing to put content into it - if nobody is, then that structure is dead weight.
:::Ah ok I didn't knew that. Personaly I like more general categories (cause currently it aren't that much pages), but yes if it's a special project we should use the long 'emulator compatibility' instead. But wouldn't it be more wise to put all informations on a single page comparing all emulators? Or using a bot to generate it out of the content of distributed pages?
::::It has to be easy to edit - that's one of the most important criteria. Someone has to be willing to work on it. A single page is easier to edit than many different pages when you're trying to add several games at once, even if those different pages are later combined. So if you're going to compare different emulators, it might be better to have it all on one sortable list, with a column for each emulator. The discussion is moot for now anyway, because there's only one real compatibility list on the Wiki. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:52, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Ah ok, I see your point :) and yes there is a lot of truth. I had good experiences in offering wiki editing help directly to people in other communities, when I recognized that they would like to help but didn't knew how wikis work. But I guess this a wiki (or organisation in general?) at all. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:30, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::"I guess this a wiki (or organisation in general?) at all." - pardon, I didn't understand what you tried to say here... I think you might've missed a word by accident. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:38, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::Unstructured content is more valuable than contentless structure.
:::Difficult to answer :/ If there is already content the most users are afraid to change them. In a unstructured form newbies wont read it.
::::Don't get me wrong, I'm a big proponent of structuring content once it is there to be structured, and there's a good likelihood that more will be added later on. That's why I try to think in advance about how an article or list might evolve, when deciding what the table should look like and so on. But when there's very little content, and you're not sure how things will evolve, too much structure from the very beginning can stifle the initiative of those who would have contributed. I would say more, but basically I think [http://imgur.com/bsqhR this Bizarro comic] says it better. :) In modest doses, structure provides encouragement, but if you go too far it will stifle it. Anyway, if you hang around here for a little while you'll probably get a better idea of the right balance. :) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:22, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::So basically, I ask that before you copy things over from Wikipedia, you take a bit of time to think about if they're suitable for this particular project - if there's a need for them. Maybe ask people. Some of them are - and lots aren't. If ''you'' are willing to use them to add some content to the wiki, then that's the best of all. ;) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:03, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::Thanks, but most of all it's a issue with the missing SVG support. ED is working on that and I don't want to stress him again. And I didn't want to spam the wiki with prerendered PNG files. So please be patient, it might be fixed within a few days :)
::::Okay. Although honestly, just using PNG files wouldn't be the end of the world, though I can see how it might be annoying for you to convert all of them. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:52, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::Well ...yes :) I think it's not a good style to alter things that way. So to me the wiki doesn't seem to be used that frequently that we need to hurry up and to polish everything. To me wiki means to be 'liquid', to be more a process than a single state (that might be just good or bad). BTW might you fix the SVG issue alone or don't you have an account to the wiki box? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:34, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::I'm not sure whether I have access to it or not. Can you tell me how I might find out? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:38, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::I have access to user/page rights and to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]], but not to LocalSettings.php or the server. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:39, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::::I have no experience with such things but might you extend [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] with the statements nesarry for [[:template:hidden]] as pointed out here: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden], please? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 21:15, 23 April 2011 (MEST)
:::::I disabled images in [[:template:Ambox]] temporary to make them less anoying --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:49, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
::::::Thanks. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:49, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

Talk:Utilities

2011-04-23T18:17:31Z

ABC: delete ?

This page seems to be in the wrong place...
ACK ultilities, tools etc mean to me system tools and not software for the pandora. Delete? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 20:17, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

Controllers

2011-04-23T18:16:15Z

ABC: formating

This includes instructions on installing software and configuration to pair Nintendo Wii Wiimotes using [[Bluetooth]] to the Pandora, and using them as joystick controllers. This was done under the base install of Angstrom Linux provided on the Pandora, using [[Hotfix 4]]. This does not include setting up a sensor bar type setup, but should allow you to use classic controllers that plug into the Wiimote.

{{warning
|Updating the list of packages (the command "sudo opkg update") should not affect your Pandora. However, upgrading or installing some packages may update core files on the Pandora and cause instability or prevent your Pandora from booting (requiring a reflash of your system).}}

These instructions worked in [[Hotfix 4]] and 5. When [[Hotfix 5]] was released, the update took 30 minutes to complete.

== Installing the Drivers ==

Open a Terminal, and run the command
<source lang="bash">sudo opkg update</source>
It will give you a warning about responsibility, and asks for your user password. This will update the Angstrom packages stored on [[NAND]].

Then install the Wiimote drivers and software, cwiid, using the command
<source lang="bash">sudo opkg install cwiid</source>

== Pairing the Wiimote ==

Make sure [[Bluetooth]] is enabled. In [[Hotfix 4]], there's a script to "Toggle Bluetooth Status" in the Pandora menu under the "System" category. A light will turn on on the left hand side of the Pandora if [[Bluetooth]] is on, next to the network light.

Open a Terminal, and run the command and follow the directions.
<source lang="bash">wminput</source>
It will tell you to press 1+2 on the [[Wiimote]] to connect. On my Wiimotes, the lights flash and the fourth light on the Wiimote lights solid once paired. If you then quit the wminput application (for instance, by hitting CTRL-C), your Wiimote will un-pair and turn off. I usually just hide the Terminal in the background by minimizing the window while I run game emulators.

You can pair multiple Wiimotes, just run wminput a second time and follow the instructions to pair it. I only have two, and both lit the fourth light.

In [[PicoDrive]], the Sega Genesis emulator, in the controller settings, if you push left or right it will display different joysticks configured. You can set up the buttons for different players there. The Wiimotes appeared as joysticks 1 and 2, in the order in which I paired them.

== Changing the Wiimote Configuration ==

You can edit ''/etc/cwiid/wminput/default'' and ''/etc/cwiid/wminput/buttons'' to map the buttons of the Wiimote. You should quit wminput and restart them for these changes to take effect. They are plain text files. I edited them using vim from the command line, which is not the most user friendly thing to describe. Because they're system files, I needed to use sudo again, so I ran
<source lang="bash">sudo vim /etc/cwiid/wminput/default</source>

By default, the Wiimote is set up to control the mouse with the accelerometer. This means, as you tilt the Wiimote left and right, your mouse will shift around. I found it a bit distracting, and so I commented out two lines in /etc/cwiid/wminput/default so they look like this:

<pre>
#Plugin.acc.X = REL_X
#Plugin.acc.Y = REL_Y
</pre>

Also, I use the Wiimote "sideways", like a traditional Nintendo controller. I changed the direction pad to reflect this. Though you can do that within emulator configurations, it seemed handier to just have that set up by default. To do this, make these changes in /etc/cwiid/wminput/buttons

<pre>
Wiimote.Up = KEY_LEFT
Wiimote.Down = KEY_RIGHT
Wiimote.Left = KEY_DOWN
Wiimote.Right = KEY_UP
</pre>

It is also possible to map the Wiimote or extension buttons to a virtual gamepad. See below for instructions.

== Using a Classic Controller ==

There are two ways to use a Wiimote or Classic Controller with the Pandora:
* As a virtual gamepad. This means you can use it in games that support gamepads, and allows multiplayer in games that support it, but won't work in games that don't support gamepads.

* As a clone of the Pandora's gaming controls, by mapping it to the same keys. This theoretically means it would work in games that don't have gamepad support, or allow you to change the controls at all, as long as they are using the Pandora controls. However, currently, not all games will register the input with this method. [[SuperTux]], [[OpenTyrian]], [[PandoraPanic]] and [[Snes9X4D4P]] will. [[Giana's Return]], [[Sqrxz]] and [[psx4pandora]] won't. Additionally, [[Mupen64Plus]] with the default PPSP Input Plugin won't - but the Blight Input Plugin will.

=== As a virtual gamepad ===

The default profile doesn't have classic controller buttons defined, but cwiid comes with a gamepad profile which does. You can load it in wminput like this using a terminal:
<source lang="bash">wminput -c gamepad</source>
Then connect your Wiimote and Classic Controller. You do not have to connect the Classic Controller before you connect the Wiimote.

However the analog sticks/dpad seemed to be set up wrong in the gamepad profile (''/etc/cwiid/wminput/gamepad''):
<pre>
Classic.Dpad.X = ABS_X
Classic.Dpad.Y = ABS_Y
Classic.LStick.X = ABS_HAT0X
Classic.LStick.Y = ABS_HAT0Y
Classic.RStick.X = ABS_HAT1X
Classic.RStick.Y = ABS_HAT1Y
</pre>

should be replaced with:
<pre>
Classic.Dpad.X = ABS_HAT0X
Classic.Dpad.Y = ABS_HAT0Y
Classic.LStick.X = ABS_X
Classic.LStick.Y = ABS_Y
Classic.RStick.X = ABS_RX
Classic.RStick.Y = ABS_RY
</pre>

Otherwise, you won't get proper analog input from the sticks, since PoV hats aren't analog.

=== As a clone of the Pandora's gaming controls ===

This method works well where it does, you get a clone of the Pandora's gaming controls (minus the nubs), that should theoretically work in all games that support the Pandora's gaming controls. However, because of differences in how the games receive input, not all will detect the "fake" input.

Here is the profile for the Pandora gaming controls:
<pre>
# D-Pad
Classic.Up = KEY_UP
Classic.Down = KEY_DOWN
Classic.Left = KEY_LEFT
Classic.Right = KEY_RIGHT

# Select, Start and Space
Classic.Minus = KEY_LEFTCTRL
Classic.Plus = KEY_LEFTALT
Classic.Home = KEY_SPACE

# BXYA on Pandora
Classic.A = KEY_END
Classic.B = KEY_PAGEDOWN
Classic.X = KEY_PAGEUP
Classic.Y = KEY_HOME
Classic.ZL = KEY_Q
Classic.ZR = KEY_P
Classic.L = KEY_RIGHTSHIFT
Classic.R = KEY_RIGHTCTRL
</pre>

Save that in /etc/cwiid/wminput - you can name it whatever you want, as long as you load it in wminput using "wminput -c filename" - and make sure to save it using UNIX line endings (LF).

Once the profile is loaded and your Wiimote/Classic Controller is connected, it will automatically work in some games, but not in others. This might be possible to change to work in all games by modifying the wminput source code.

== Extra Information ==

* [http://abstrakraft.org/cwiid/browser/wminput/action_enum.txt List of bindable buttons, axises and keys for wminput]

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