Talk:Emulators - Revision history

Intvnut at 05:33, 13 May 2009

2009-05-13T05:33:08Z

JayFoxRox: New section: Remove list of Emulators

2009-04-24T19:50:37Z

New section: Remove list of Emulators

Orkie at 13:12, 4 May 2008

2008-05-04T13:12:33Z

Orkie at 13:11, 4 May 2008

2008-05-04T13:11:55Z

Pekingu at 12:41, 4 May 2008

2008-05-04T12:41:10Z

Chip at 19:50, 2 May 2008

2008-05-02T19:50:14Z

Orkie: New page: == Speculative List == I've removed a list of machines which 'might' be emulated. To be honest, I don't see the need for such a list; it is explained quite clearly in the text what could b...

2008-05-01T21:55:52Z

New page: == Speculative List == I've removed a list of machines which 'might' be emulated. To be honest, I don't see the need for such a list; it is explained quite clearly in the text what could b...

New page

== Speculative List ==
I've removed a list of machines which 'might' be emulated. To be honest, I don't see the need for such a list; it is explained quite clearly in the text what could be emulated and I want to act now to prevent this wiki becoming a mirror of the GP2X wiki at the time when the longest page on the entire site was just a list of machines, rating their 'emulatability'. It was a mess, un-needed and was actually plain wrong in places (e.g. GameKing was rated as 'Very likely' despite the fact there is no complete emulator for any platform and very little in the way of hardware documentation). I was originally going to keep the wiki low profile until the Pandora was released in order to prevent purely speculative lists.

I understand why some people may want them (they think people are too dense to read a few sentences etc.), but I feel it is not needed and just builds expectations leading to buyers demanding a particular emulator, which is not nice for developers. Of course, when the Pandora is released and emulators become available, I am more than happy for them to be added to the list of ones which do exist!

[[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 23:55, 1 May 2008 (CEST)

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	Remove list of Emulators and link to the [[Projects_Under_Development]] page?		Remove list of Emulators and link to the [[Projects_Under_Development]] page?
	This would be more logical so we don't have to maintain both lists		This would be more logical so we don't have to maintain both lists
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		+	== jzIntv ==
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		+	I am the author of an Intellivision emulator, jzIntv. I'd love to see it run on Pandora. It runs fine on GP2X, PSP and other handhelds. I don't have access to a Pandora unit to test, though. If you'd like to help me port jzIntv to Pandora, please email me. intvnut at gmail. --[[User:Intvnut\|Intvnut]] 07:33, 13 May 2009 (CEST)

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	The statement that donwloading copyrighted content is an illegal action is false at least in european legal systems i know. And specifically is false in spanish and french systems where such an action even without owning a licence for the content may be only prosecuted as a civil ofense but not as a criminal one as long as there was no intention to make a profit with that content. This line of reasoning is applied by courts in such systems.		The statement that donwloading copyrighted content is an illegal action is false at least in european legal systems i know. And specifically is false in spanish and french systems where such an action even without owning a licence for the content may be only prosecuted as a civil ofense but not as a criminal one as long as there was no intention to make a profit with that content. This line of reasoning is applied by courts in such systems.
	: Sorry, but in the US and UK at least, it is illegal to download a game you already own and thus the statement will stay as it is (since together these make the largest group of GP2X users, and so presumably Pandora users). [[User:Orkie\|Orkie]] 15:11, 4 May 2008 (CEST)		: Sorry, but in the US and UK at least, it is illegal to download a game you already own and thus the statement will stay as it is (since together these make the largest group of GP2X users, and so presumably Pandora users). [[User:Orkie\|Orkie]] 15:11, 4 May 2008 (CEST)
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		+	== Remove list of Emulators ==
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		+	Remove list of Emulators and link to the [[Projects_Under_Development]] page?
		+	This would be more logical so we don't have to maintain both lists

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 :: Agreed.  The detailed list wasn't stopping the baseless assumptions and questions anyway. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 21:50, 2 May 2008 (CEST)
   These dumps cannot be distributed legally without the permission of the company/individual
   who created them due to them being copyrighted. In some cases (such as the GBA) it may be

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	The statement that donwloading copyrighted content is an illegal action is false at least in european legal systems i know. And specifically is false in spanish and french systems where such an action even without owning a licence for the content may be only prosecuted as a civil ofense but not as a criminal one as long as there was no intention to make a profit with that content. This line of reasoning is applied by courts in such systems.		The statement that donwloading copyrighted content is an illegal action is false at least in european legal systems i know. And specifically is false in spanish and french systems where such an action even without owning a licence for the content may be only prosecuted as a civil ofense but not as a criminal one as long as there was no intention to make a profit with that content. This line of reasoning is applied by courts in such systems.
		+	: Sorry, but in the US and UK at least, it is illegal to download a game you already own and thus the statement will stay as it is (since together these make the largest group of GP2X users, and so presumably Pandora users). [[User:Orkie\|Orkie]] 15:11, 4 May 2008 (CEST)

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	:: Agreed. The detailed list wasn't stopping the baseless assumptions and questions anyway. [[User:Chip\|Chip]] 21:50, 2 May 2008 (CEST)		:: Agreed. The detailed list wasn't stopping the baseless assumptions and questions anyway. [[User:Chip\|Chip]] 21:50, 2 May 2008 (CEST)
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		+	These dumps cannot be distributed legally without the permission of the company/individual
		+	who created them due to them being copyrighted. In some cases (such as the GBA) it may be
		+	feasible to extract a dump of the BIOS yourself if you own a GBA and the necessary equipment
		+	but for others (like the PlayStation) the only way most people can optain a BIOS dump is to
		+	illegally download it.
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		+	In any modern legal system downloading copyrighted content is not illegal if you own a license. In a playstation game as mentioned hereabove, you do not buy the disc but a licence to use a content under an eula. So if your disk is destroyed but you keep the receipt or the non functional disk you still may receive a copy from any other user or the original author or copyright owner as a backup. In fact any limitation under an eula to keep an user away from making a backup of the content will not be valid under civil law.
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		+	The statement that donwloading copyrighted content is an illegal action is false at least in european legal systems i know. And specifically is false in spanish and french systems where such an action even without owning a licence for the content may be only prosecuted as a civil ofense but not as a criminal one as long as there was no intention to make a profit with that content. This line of reasoning is applied by courts in such systems.

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 I've removed a list of machines which 'might' be emulated. To be honest, I don't see the need for such a list; it is explained quite clearly in the text what could be emulated and I want to act now to prevent this wiki becoming a mirror of the GP2X wiki at the time when the longest page on the entire site was just a list of machines, rating their 'emulatability'. It was a mess, un-needed and was actually plain wrong in places (e.g. GameKing was rated as 'Very likely' despite the fact there is no complete emulator for any platform and very little in the way of hardware documentation). I was originally going to keep the wiki low profile until the Pandora was released in order to prevent purely speculative lists.
-I understand why some people may want them (they think people are too dense to read a few sentences etc.), but I feel it is not needed and just builds expectations leading to buyers demanding a particular emulator, which is not nice for developers. Of course, when the Pandora is released and emulators become available, I am more than happy for them to be added to the list of ones which do exist!
+I understand why some people may want them (they think people are too dense to read a few sentences etc.), but I feel it is not needed and just builds expectations leading to buyers demanding a particular emulator, which is not nice for developers. Of course, when the Pandora is released and emulators become available, I am more than happy for them to be added to the list of ones which do exist!  [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 23:55, 1 May 2008 (CEST)
-[[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 23:55, 1 May 2008 (CEST)
+:: Agreed.  The detailed list wasn't stopping the baseless assumptions and questions anyway. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 21:50, 2 May 2008 (CEST)