Talk:Pandora - Revision history

Spiralofhope: /* mp3 playing time - 100hrs or 20? */ -- I call bullshit

2012-06-20T08:32:36Z

‎mp3 playing time - 100hrs or 20?: -- I call bullshit

Spiralofhope: /* Expanding History */ - moving this to Pandora history

2012-06-20T08:29:45Z

‎Expanding History: - moving this to Pandora history

Spiralofhope: /* . */ - removing ancient discussion

2012-06-20T08:29:28Z

‎.: - removing ancient discussion

Spiralofhope: /* to reintegrate later */ new section

2012-06-20T08:28:57Z

‎to reintegrate later: new section

Spiralofhope: /* Size Comparisons */ - removing completed task

2012-06-20T08:28:12Z

‎Size Comparisons: - removing completed task

Spiralofhope at 08:25, 20 June 2012

2012-06-20T08:25:02Z

Spiralofhope: /* Sorry about that */ - removing an ancient note

2012-06-20T08:24:48Z

‎Sorry about that: - removing an ancient note

Cheese: TalkEtiquette template

2010-12-09T06:57:53Z

TalkEtiquette template

Esn: tutorial for how to use talk pages

2010-11-03T03:18:03Z

tutorial for how to use talk pages

Cheese: /* Improving readability/accuracy */

2010-10-04T18:38:49Z

‎Improving readability/accuracy

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-==mp3 playing time - 100hrs or 20?==
+== mp3 playing time - 100hrs or 20? ==
 Concerning [http://pandorawiki.org/index.php?title=Pandora&diff=3566&oldid=3563 this edit], I realize that 100 hrs may be unrealistic, but where does the "20 hrs" figure even come from? Was it just pulled out of a hat? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 20:24, 6 September 2010 (MEST)
 ::Yes, looks like it was a rather odd guess. Currently, I measure 17 hours [[Power_modes]]. Claiming that it is impossible to ever get anywhere near to 2 or 3 times that just shows a poor understanding of where the power management is at the moment. --[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 03:11, 7 September 2010 (MEST)
 :After starting exaile with a fully charged battery and playing music for a few minutes, when I opened the lid again the battery meter told me I had 19.5 hours left.  I didn't leave it on to see if it really lasted that long. --[[User:Nyan|Nyan]] 10:07, 7 September 2010 (MEST)
 ::The whole point of the '100' hours, and the quote from the forum is that with good power management, and if the DSP can be used to play music (with minimal support from the main CPU), some tasks can be optimised - it is not a reflection of the current state.--[[User:Tsh|Tsh]] 10:14, 7 September 2010 (MEST)
 :::Yeah, well, Craig is overly optimistic about a lot of things. --[[User:Nyan|Nyan]] 10:20, 7 September 2010 (MEST)
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−	Someone who was there to experience the whole process, from when it was first announced, to when it started shipping, should expand this section. Or at least post some notes here for me or whoever feels up to doing it.
−	~~--[[User:Cheese\|Cheese]] 07:25, 26 June 2010 (MEST)~~
−	~~Created a page for this.--[[User:Tsh\|Tsh]] 19:51, 26 June 2010 (MEST)~~

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−	I added the full spec list from the bluwiki page with minor updates and changes. I did not update any of the existing links, though. This ''really'' needs to get done. [[User:Chip\|Chip]] 02:22, 15 April 2008 (CEST)
−	: Thanks for doing this - I did mean to move the information across at some point but I've been busy. When I get a Pandora board it is fairly likely I'll start to throw some more information on here and we can slowly remove the links to 'prove' various aspects of the design as it becomes more final. [[User:Orkie\|Orkie]] 19:48, 15 April 2008 (CEST)
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−	~~: OpenGL ES Demonstrated link updated. [[User:AeroSigma\|AeroSigma]] 13:47, 7 July 2008 (PST)~~

	== Expanding History ==		== Expanding History ==

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	::I know what you mean, but I suspect the point of the Pandora wiki is not to allow people to 'correctly' understand physical concepts. Now take just about any package sold in your mall or whatnot, and read it... how many times do you see 'mass' instead of the commonly used 'weight' (just like the link on that line) ? Let's be realistic. --[[User:British\|British]] 11:34, 4 October 2010 (MEST)		::I know what you mean, but I suspect the point of the Pandora wiki is not to allow people to 'correctly' understand physical concepts. Now take just about any package sold in your mall or whatnot, and read it... how many times do you see 'mass' instead of the commonly used 'weight' (just like the link on that line) ? Let's be realistic. --[[User:British\|British]] 11:34, 4 October 2010 (MEST)
	:::Point taken, most things use "weight". Although I think anyone looking at this page can make sense of the information given regardless of what it's labelled, so it doesn't really matter. I just like to be as correct or accurate as I can rather than following colloquial convention. --[[User:Cheese\|Cheese]] 20:38, 4 October 2010 (MEST)		:::Point taken, most things use "weight". Although I think anyone looking at this page can make sense of the information given regardless of what it's labelled, so it doesn't really matter. I just like to be as correct or accurate as I can rather than following colloquial convention. --[[User:Cheese\|Cheese]] 20:38, 4 October 2010 (MEST)
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		+	== to reintegrate later ==
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		+	* A ROM bootloader, making it "unbrickable".
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		+	* Real-time clock (RTC) built in, to keep track of time: [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?s=&showtopic=38155&view=findpost&p=568882]
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		+	I wasn't sure where these should go, so I'm dumping them here so the knowledge isn't lost. — [[Image:Spiralofhope-logo-016.png]] [[User:Spiralofhope\|spiralofhope]] / <sup>[[User_Talk:Spiralofhope\|(talk)]]</sup> 10:28, 20 June 2012 (CEST)

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−	~~== Size Comparisons ==~~
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−	Several threads on the forums have linked to pictures and videos comparing real Pandoras to other gadgets. I suggest we add some of these with permission. (The SizEasy is nice, but leaves a lot to imagination...)
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−	~~This thread:: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/54034-pandora-size-comparison-pictures/~~
−	~~--[[User:Ollonk\|Ollonk]] 22:05, 21 June 2010 (MEST)~~
−	~~:Very nice. I missed that topic. I think the size comparisons should actually go on their own page (with a link on this page).~~
−	~~:Edit: I made a page for it [[Size Comparisons]]~~
−	~~: --[[User:Cheese\|Cheese]] 23:21, 21 June 2010 (MEST)~~

	== Expanding History ==		== Expanding History ==

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	I added the full spec list from the bluwiki page with minor updates and changes. I did not update any of the existing links, though. This ''really'' needs to get done. [[User:Chip\|Chip]] 02:22, 15 April 2008 (CEST)		I added the full spec list from the bluwiki page with minor updates and changes. I did not update any of the existing links, though. This ''really'' needs to get done. [[User:Chip\|Chip]] 02:22, 15 April 2008 (CEST)

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−	~~== Sorry about that ==~~
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−	~~I accidentally added the 'we need help' header thinking it was the Spanish page. All fixed.<br />~~
−	~~[[User:Nat1192\|Nat1192]] 03:00, 1 October 2008 (CEST)~~

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 I added the full spec list from the bluwiki page with minor updates and changes.  I did not update any of the existing links, though.  This ''really'' needs to get done. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:22, 15 April 2008 (CEST)
 : Thanks for doing this - I did mean to move the information across at some point but I've been busy. When I get a Pandora board it is fairly likely I'll start to throw some more information on here and we can slowly remove the links to 'prove' various aspects of the design as it becomes more final. [[User:Orkie|Orkie]] 19:48, 15 April 2008 (CEST)

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	I added the full spec list from the bluwiki page with minor updates and changes. I did not update any of the existing links, though. This ''really'' needs to get done. [[User:Chip\|Chip]] 02:22, 15 April 2008 (CEST)		I added the full spec list from the bluwiki page with minor updates and changes. I did not update any of the existing links, though. This ''really'' needs to get done. [[User:Chip\|Chip]] 02:22, 15 April 2008 (CEST)
	: Thanks for doing this - I did mean to move the information across at some point but I've been busy. When I get a Pandora board it is fairly likely I'll start to throw some more information on here and we can slowly remove the links to 'prove' various aspects of the design as it becomes more final. [[User:Orkie\|Orkie]] 19:48, 15 April 2008 (CEST)		: Thanks for doing this - I did mean to move the information across at some point but I've been busy. When I get a Pandora board it is fairly likely I'll start to throw some more information on here and we can slowly remove the links to 'prove' various aspects of the design as it becomes more final. [[User:Orkie\|Orkie]] 19:48, 15 April 2008 (CEST)

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 :These errors are due to carelessness on my part from when I changed the wording to be past tense after the Pandora started shipping. Also, I don't agree with changing "Mass" to "Weight". Weight is a measurement of force the acts on an object. Grams is a measurement of an objects mass. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 06:25, 4 October 2010 (MEST)
 ::I know what you mean, but I suspect the point of the Pandora wiki is not to allow people to 'correctly' understand physical concepts. Now take just about *any* package sold in your mall or whatnot, and read it... how many times do you see 'mass' instead of the commonly used 'weight' (just like the link on that line) ? Let's be realistic. --[[User:British|British]] 11:34, 4 October 2010 (MEST)
-:::Point taken, most things use "weight". Although I think most anyone looking at this page can make sense of the information given regardless of what it's labelled, so it doesn't really matter. I just like to be as correct or accurate as I can rather than following colloquial convention. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 20:38, 4 October 2010 (MEST)
+:::Point taken, most things use "weight". Although I think anyone looking at this page can make sense of the information given regardless of what it's labelled, so it doesn't really matter. I just like to be as correct or accurate as I can rather than following colloquial convention. --[[User:Cheese|Cheese]] 20:38, 4 October 2010 (MEST)